Wait! Wait! Wait! The main cogs of that contender . . . he had nothing to do with bringing here BUT Those same main cogs were the reason we did not get further IF MAC and MING are the reason he has not accomplished his goal you cannot turn right around and accept the accomplishments of MAC AND MING and claim them to be Darryl's accomplishments! Rocket River
Not only that? His only two Superstars within is his career here? Those are not Moreys either. Those are the last Superstars of the last GM. Yao and Tmac are both relics of a team built by another guy. Even those excuses are not Moreys to have. They are his to fix and build around. Which he did not do.
Backbone is definitely a requirement for his job. If he doesnt have one he should be fired. Les Alexander telling him what to do is not a constant excuse to use. Its a thing that will get him fired for the owner to take most of the responsibilities and flak from the fanbase for his GM. That wont happen for long and Les will fire Morey if he keeps taking public scrutiny for him.
TMac & Yao were out in the 1st round. Our only playoff series win since 1997 was due mostly thanks to moves made by Morey (pretty much entirely for taking the Lakers to 7 games).
Yeah, and Dawson didn't know what to do with MAC and MING ... Before injury, surround him with complementary players - AB, Scola, Landry, Artest, Battier, Mutumbo, Hayes (enough for contender status) After injury, only been two years since and first year with cap space available. 3 1st round draft picks this year, two top 10 talent, another one top 10 if declared for draft last year at least. D-Mo a lottery level talent acquired with 20th pick or so for Battier who was going to leave anyway. Can you see a pattern difference pre-Yao and post-Yao??? Daryl got almost every one of the supporting cast of Yao and Mac in the year we went to the second round. And T-Mac didn't even play, and Yao played half the 2nd round and we still took the Lakers to 7. No credit allowed?
Agreed. People think it is just about last year It is his body of work Minor fails here and there. Firing Rick was just the straw for me Rocket River Rocket River
But you do understand this league is about results. In what time frame are you giving Morey to provide significant results? Simple question
Brooks / Lowry McGrady / Wafer / Barry Artest / Battier Scola / Landry / Hayes Yao / Mutumbo Morey brought in every single one of those guys, except the bolded. McGrady/Yao were not contenders in 04/05 and didn't become one till the right pieces were brought in. His pieces produced, Yao/Mcgrady did not.
So you saying Morey [came in 2006 or 2007] inherited a good team and coasted with it? his accomplishment is he did not instantly F''' it up? Rocket River
Great point! The result is one of the best managemed teams in basketball that is highly profitable. So yes, by that result, Morey has been a terrific success.
This is the way it is. If by the end of this offseason and we go in with what we have? Thats a failure. Everybody knows it. Many teams are changing around us and shuffling stars around. Our big signee may be Omer Asik. Think about that. Our big change could be Omer Asik. Then our draftees could miss playing time with a stacked roster of guys not moved to accommodate roster spots. Dragic could be gone. We could have 3 guys playing uninspired basketball because of trade rumors not pulled off in Lowry, Scola, and definitely Martin. Thats is a huge failure if that happens. Every player around this league seems to have some bad information on our organization and avoids it now. Including perhaps Dragic. There is something negative going on with Morey unless he can turn it around with a big deal to have a decent future here. Other than that its another 8th seed hopes and 500 season coming. Guaranteed.
So you mean the Magic's 85 year old owner doesn't have an influence on wanting the GM to rebuild quickly? Donald Sterling hasn't had an impact on his GMs over the past 10+ years? Portland Trail Blazers owner didn't have an impact firing arguably one of the top 5 GMs in the league (better than Morey even, perhaps) Nets owner wanting to make a splash in Brooklyn didn't factor into that Joe Johnson deal? Chicago's not wanting to pay the luxury tax didn't factor into Morey's deal structure for Asik and impact the GM's decisions? Ok, I'll give you this. David Kahn can do whatever he friggin likes, cause there was surely no oversight of his actions there.
No player is avoiding Houston any more than other cities. Players are looking at LA & NY. Players are looking for other superstars. Houston is neither of those places, and has no stars. If we have 3 starters playing poorly all season due to trade rumors, then we get a better chance at winning the lottery and it results in a positive for the organization.
Disagree. People should realize it's a multi-year process. It is his combination of moves constant improvements here and there. Yao coming off books was just the beginning for me Who cares about the signature DD does DD does P.S. that was bad I know
You liked Batum from that draft better? Really? ....seems like you must have kept that one to yourself...as you spent that evening comparing him unfavorably with Green (Gerald, not Donte): and then you really didn't mention that you liked Batum again till 2 years later when you and leebigs were in the barber shop having a good sulk.
Yao and TMAC and everyone was Morey's pieces. yes, he did not brought them in but he can trade them for his own pieces that fit. As a GM, if Morey did not see Yao/Mcgrady could not produce, Morey's other pieces were just wasting the time. In the end, Morey needs to bring Yao/Mcgrady type of players. Even if they were total failures, they brought money to their owner and joy to their fans. Saying Morey brought in all the great role players except Yao/Mcgrady type of players is like TMAC can do all the great basketball things except winning. Morey as a GM = TMAC as an NBA player
I dont think people can see what I see coming. 3 guys playing semi good and having a deep roster behind them? that equals another 500 year and 14th pick if you do the math on what this team has still. Think about it. It doesnt mean playoffs if they play bad but it probably doesnt mean real bad either. Think about it where we could be AGAIN.
