Ugh for those who say how bad Rudy Gay is ... this just in. If we had Rudy Gay right now, he would be our biggest and best assest to get a superstar
So, IYO, Morey should have been able to control the draft and have Charlotte take Robinson so MKG would slide and Sacramento would have traded us the pick. If Robinson was gone by the 5th pick, Morey had a deal in place. Not defending Morey, But, restating your position with the facts. Unless I don't understand something about the league, the other team has to want to make a deal as well.
In my opinion, Morey has been unable to trade important pieces to get a difference maker, as been his stated goal. I don't know about controlling the draft, but I suspect that he values his guys a wee bit too much - sometimes, it is best for the overall franchise to lose a trade because the incomming piece fits in better with the roster overall. DD
oH, and Mav-Hater, That is why I think Morey is having trouble executing HIS PLAN, because it is really hard to execute. Which is kind of ironic being that he is such a numbers guy, that he would choose to follow a path with the probability of success being so low. DD
Wrong. I was a Rox fan in 1993 when it was all about basketball. I didn't know squat about player movement...only that I really liked this franchise and the way the players PLAYED. Since then, I've become a more knowledgeable fan about player movement and enjoy watching with fascination the changes that occur during June/July every year but I would MUCH rather have Miami's talent and a chance to win every year. I give Morey the benefit of the doubt because I judge his actions on the totality of everything I personally know about his choices. I understand he has made some wrongheaded choices but to me, they were calculated risks that didn't pan out. I understand he hasn't pulled off the big trade but to me I understand it takes 2 to tango and our "assets" aren't compelling enough in the marketplace to get other GM's to bite. I understand he hasn't signed a big free agent talent but to me it seems he is fighting with 1 hand tied behind his back without a compelling roster or city to help draw them in. I understand his draft choices haven't landed the big stud yet but its hard to do picking in the teens year after year. I understand his asset collection is very full of power forwards with no centers, but to me, its silly to judge him on this years roster when we are 3 1/2 months away from training camp. In short, what REALLY separates the Morey bashers from guys like me is one word. PATIENCE.
Ok Dagger, I can see that. How long are you willing to wait? We are more than 5 years into his tenure, is the team appreciably better? How long is your patience, 1 more year, 2, 3? What? How long do you beat your head against the wall trying to make something unlikely happen? DD
As long as it takes. ASSUMING he doesn't make any dumb/rash decisions in an effort to appease those who can't stay patient.
If Dragic walks and we signed Asik. Ill chance my túne. But if we resign Dragic I'm fine with the Omer deal. Doesn't make sense to bring Omer in and let Dragic walk.
So you are willing to pay 10 million a season for a guy who has 30 starts in his career. Are you related to Carroll Dawson? He gave Kelvin Cato a ridiculous contract like that for his performance in 1 preseason game. With a name like David Stern, you are definitely out to screw the Rockets!!
So in "aslong as it takes" you mean forever? That means Morey's been given a time frame of infinity to rebuild this team. Is that really realistic to you
To be fair DD, we are really only into his 2nd year. Those 1st few years do not count because of the raggedy(?) stars we had. He built the right team around them, they just weren't there.
You see, a lot of the posters here want us to be the Miami Heat (super friends), or the Oklahoma Thunders (super tankers), and they wanted it done last year, this year, or at most if this hasn't happened by next year, Morey should be fired. That's when you start making stupid decisions like signing Joe Johnson to that stupid contract, or trading for Joe Johnson with that stupid contract, or signing G Wall to that stupid contract just to make sure you start off your reign as NBA owner in a new city with an all-star PG that you gave up the farm (picks, favors, and more picks this year) for that you can't afford to lose, so you keep piling on the bad contracts one after another compounding mistake after mistake on. That's what happens when you say, I MUST GET RESULTS THIS YEAR, OR IT IS AN EPIC FAIL. And that's why the best answer on a timeframe is, AS LONG AS IT TAKES, AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE TO DO THE RIGHT THINGS. If Brooklyn doesn't get Dwight Howard, how long do you think their window is open (or if it is open at all) with DWill, ageing Joe Johnson & that contract, oft-injured Brook Lopez at say $10M/yr, and G Wallace at $10M/yr. They will need a lot of luck to get out of that. Yet, many posters here prefer Morey to swing the fence at all cost, and think he's an EPIC FAIL if he cannot bring the superstars in at any cost, or that he doesn't have the guts to pull it off, or that he values his assets too much.
Aaron Brooks was a stud, Morey did a good job with that pick, Brooks just fell off because of injuries and then had personality and attitude problems. For the other 2 give them time. I haven't been thrilled with them either but they have potential. I was very upset with the Adelman fire and that's when I began to lose my opinion on him as well.
Rudy Gay is a star. Beautiful shot, athletic, great athleticism, rebounder, defender. I'd say one of the top 20 players in the league.
Bosh is a superstar. PERIOD. Lebron / Wade, two of the best players in the game could not win a championship without him. He is toe to toe with Dirk as the best offensive PF in the game. In Adelman's system he would of exploded as the focal point of the offensive and had ridiculous numbers. I am astounded that people whine and cry about missing out on Gay, a trash player, but completely just shrug off Chris Bosh, who is ten times the player Gay is.
