Now that we know that the ACA is Constitutional we are seeing Romney, and Congressional Republicans, doubling down on repealing ACA what I haven't heard though is what exactly are they going to replace it with?
Nothing, really. They proposed their alternative plan during the health care debate. It was basically tax breaks for getting health insurance. It didn't really address any of the underlying problems in the system and did nothing to control costs.
Yes. It addresses accessibility, affordability, and the long-term cost curve. It certainly isn't perfect and the end-solution, but it's a step forward in all 3 categories.
We've heard exactly what will replace it. Romney is in favor all major provisions in Romneycare/Obamacare except the individual mandate. Age limits, preexisting conditions, exchanges, the whole 9 yards...just not the mandate....which he used to be in favor of, but now is not. So basically, all the benefits, just not the way to pay for it, because that's big gubmint overreach and the limited government solution is to repeal and replace it. With something worse.
http://roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/issues/issue/?IssueID=8516 http://roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/plan/#Healthsecurity Also, don't ask the liberals what Republican's plans are. They won't give you an honest answer.
None of those proposals amount to very much. I don't understand, for example, how state-based markets will solve the problem of adverse selection and pre-existing conditions in insurance companies.
And without the mandate, the whole thing is a great big circle jerk. And the GOP knows this. Because they don't want to actually make progress in changing the healthcare system. Because if they did, they would have done something about it long ago.
I think the bigger question is whether you actually read the roadmap at all? It's exactly how it's been described here - a refundable tax credit. Basically, it's a direct giveaway of over $700 billion per year to insurance companies, courtesy of the taxpayer. For taxpayers that already have health care through their jobs, the government is still giving away over $2700 for no reason at all. Insurance companies know everyone can pay $2700/yr now ($225/month), so there is zero incentive to offer plans costing less than that. All that does is increase health insurance spending across the board. Nothing else in there actually does anything to control costs, except limited things the insurance exchanges which already exist in ACA. It doesn't address accessibility and does not address the cost curve. As insurance costs rise, individuals either can't afford it again or the giveaway has to increase. And, of course, no mention of how to pay for this $700 billion per year. Given the Republican opposition to any tax increases, the proposed GOP plan would increased the federal debt by more than $7 trillion over 10 years.
I took a look at the road map laid out by Paul Ryan and as other posters have noted it doesn't address pre-existing conditions or allowing children to stay on their parents health insurance until 26. Two things that Romney seems to want to keep. The insurance exchanges are already in the ACA. One other problem that I can see with the Ryan's proposal and one that has come up before, is allowing people to buy health insurance across state lines. That will likely lead to a race to the bottom among health insurers to set up policies in the states with the most favorable laws to them, most restrictive on paying out benefits, but another problem is that may violate federalism and also be an overreach of the Federal government.
The American people won, and Wall Street lost. Even if Romney wins, he won't have the stomach to touch it, nor will have have the votes to stop a filibuster.
God you are clueless. Obamacare, the Great Swindle Monday, July 02, 2012 Now that Obamacare has been ruled a tax by the U.S. Supreme Court, reality is starting to sink in for all those who emotionally supported it. Promoted as a way to provide either free health care or low-cost health care to the masses, the sobering reality is that under Obamacare, health insurance prices keep rising, not falling. That's no surprise, of course, since the Obamacare legislation was practically written by the health insurance companies, and they sure didn't put their weight behind a sweeping new law that would earn them less profit. In an era when the so-called "99%" are sick and tired of being exploited by the one percent who control everything, they just handed their medical futures over to precisely the one percent who skillfully monopolize the conventional health care system! Obamacare is, at every level, a huge victory for the one percent. A costly new tax on the middle class By the year 2016, the Obamacare "penalty" tax will reach roughly $2,000 per year for a two-person household. According to Stephen Moore of the Wall Street Journal, 75% of the financial burden of Obamacare's new taxes will fall onto Americans making less than $120,000 a year (http://www.humanevents.com/2012/06/30/wsj-chief-economist-75-of-obama...). The great Middle Class, in other words, will bear this new tax more than anyone else. In effect, what has really happened here is a great swindle: Obama got the middle class to support his legislation by promising it was NOT a tax, and by promising it would LOWER health insurance costs. In reality, however, it RAISES health insurance costs, it IS a tax, and the majority of that tax burden falls squarely on the very same middle-class voters who put Obama into office under false pretenses. That's a swindle, by any definition. Not surprisingly, this realization doesn't sit well with many middle class taxpayers. While the original emotional appeal of Obamacare was nicely packaged and seductively marketed to the masses, the sobering, post-honeymoon reality slaps us all in the face like a wet fish: Smack! This thing is another huge tax increase on the working class! And on top of that, it gives the IRS scary new powers to pry into our private finances. How did you all think compliance with Obamacare was going to be enforced, anyway? It's going to empower the IRS with even more agents! Government monopoly for Big Pharma Even worse than the trillions in new taxes and the IRS spy grid that's now being set up to monitor compliance with Obamacare, there's also the sobering fact that Obamacare never even attempted to give consumers a free choice in their health care providers. There's no coverage of naturopathic medicine, herbal medicine, acupuncture or nutritional therapies. The entire law is written around -- and for -- Big Pharma and the conventional "sick care" industry that's best described as a "medical racket." Thanks to the U.S. Supreme Court, we don't even have a chance to opt out of this corrupt, failed system of patented chemical medications and overpriced surgical procedures. Now, we are forced to hand over our hard-earned money to the very same medical system that we already know is responsible for killing over 750,000 Americans a year. It's called "iatrogenic death," and it means death by health care. So not only are we being chemically abused and medically enslaved in America, we are now financially forced to pay for the privilege of being raked over the coals by the medical establishment. It makes you wonder... where is the "care" in Obamacare? But wait, there's more! From this position of being coerced by the government to pay for a system of medicine you don't even want, it's not much of a leap to being coerced to undergo medical procedures you don't want, either. How Obamacare will lead to mandatory vaccinations for everyone Forced vaccinations -- for adults! -- are on the way, friends. And here's why: Once everybody is "in the system" of mandatory health care, we will begin to hear arguments like this: "Anyone who refuses to get vaccinated against influenza is thereby at risk of being an influenza carrier and infecting other people, thus increasing health care costs for us all. To save money, government must force everyone to get vaccinated!" It's a false argument, of course, but it will be used to literally line people up at courthouses (with the threat of arrest and jail time) and force them all to be vaccinated against their will. The same false logic can be used to force people to undergo chemotherapy, take AIDS drugs, undergo coronary bypass surgery or be subjected to almost any medical procedure deemed "necessary" by the government. In the realm of mental health and psychiatry, this opens up a Pandora's Box of exploitation of patients for the purpose of raking in record profits for the criminally-operated psychiatric drug industry. Such is the inevitable abuse of monopolistic market practices enforced by a corrupt government that serves the interests of its corporate masters: Once the sick care industry has this monopoly and can force everyone to participate, they will exploit that advantage to its fullest profiteering capacity. Remember: It is the dream of every corporation to dominate the world. Obamacare just gave Big Pharma and the other sick care giants huge monopolistic cheats to pursue precisely that goal. Sober up, America In a time when consumers are increasingly demanding transparency, free choice and the ability to shop around for competitive bargains, Obamacare codifies secrecy, mandatory compliance and monopolistic practices. http://www.naturalnews.com/036361_Obamacare_tax_swindle.html#ixzz1zTpkwFEk
The only people the new law will affect are those like your loser friend who's been mooching off the system.
Obviously that's incorrect. The healthcare affects everyone greatly (did you forget the mandate). Also it will drive insurance prices way up, but Obama and the democrats knew this. They weren't trying to solve the problem of high healthcare costs. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/I7pqRjHQ9BU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
This is simply not true. MA has the lowest premium increases for individuals and small businesses, far far below the national average. The mandate only affects those like your moocher friend. Those with insurance aren't affected.
The health insurance provider I have through my company dropped my "cadillac plan" due to the health care legislation. I'm not that bummed out because I still have great healthcare it's just not as good as it was before. I was and still am a supporter of the legislation but I do see where some folks are a little miffed about losing the choice to have better coverage for themselves and their families.
