Can we get some in-depth analysis on Asik the basketball player??

Chuck Hayes 2.0! Now with shot-blocking action!

 

We will have a big active body in the paint on defense that KNOWS what he is doing. We really need that. We wont need him to be a dominant offensive player. He will get this points off hustle and assists from guards. Rebound the ball and play D!!!

Now resign Camby and we have two solid Cs in rotation that can hold it down on D in the paint.

 

so having Asik on the floor is basically like playing 4 on 5.

Im sorry that wont work out West. In the East there are so many scrub teams, their execution on both ends is piss poor, the West is the big boys league they'll go to the Rockets weakness again and again and again

 

I dont think that's as harmful with a big and mobile 7 footer. A perimeter player suffers much more from lack of offensive skill, since they are usually farther from the rim, both vertically and horizontally. they also are more likely to need a few dribbles than just one or two.

Guys like tyson chandler and DeAndre Jordan aren't exactly offensively gifted.

 

Having Omer on the floor is not necessarily like playing 4 on 5 because he can score on put backs and dunks. You will never see any set plays for him though. However, he does make contributions on offense by setting excellent screens and he does not clog the paint which allows for guard penetration.

Having said that, he and Chandler Parsons on the floor could cause problems because you then have 40% of your players being ineffective. I suspect that Parsons will improve offensively in year two.

Offensively the closest comparison is probably Cato or Mutombo.

 

Was going to make this point. If he is skilled enough around the basket to grab o-rebounds and put them back, you never play 4 on 5 with him on the court. Teams may not double him or play him tight, but they are not going to abandon him inside that much either. Too risky that he can crash the boards for easy points.

 

when you have 4 other guys who can put the ball on the floor and make plays & shoot like Dallas did, sure you can get away with it. We dont have a playmaking 4 like that on the team. And yea Asik seems more DeAndre Jordan than Tyson Chandler, he's gonna be left open and hes gonna be a liability

 

He cant sit in the lane because of the 3 second rule. The West has enough big bulky centers to keep him off the boards...Bynum, the Gasols, Cousins, Bogut, Gortat, Jordan, Perkins, Haywood

 

Who said sit in the lane?

You are right, the west has the centers to keep him off the boards...as long as they are near him.

 

Goran can't put the ball on the floor, make plays, and shoot?

Lamb can't put the ball on the floor, make plays, and shoot?

Lee can't put the ball on the floor, make plays, and shoot?

Scola can't put the ball on the floor, makes plays and shoot?

Parson's only issue is shooting, but he's damn good at making plays and putting the ball on the floor. With the improvements to his jumper, he'll be fine next to Asik. Same goes for White and Jones.

They just have to be decisive with their plays, if they do that, Asik will be able to step into the paint and be in great position for easy buckets or offensive rebounds.

 

Exactly. If hypothetically you are running a team of:

Dragic/Gordon/Parsons/Young PF/Asik

They cannot just leave Asik open. Mutombo was rarely left completely open during his last run with us. They didn't stay tight on him sure, but they still stayed near him. You can't just let the center sit free to where he can charge in and crash the boards with impunity. (assuming he is athletic enough to do it)

 

Scola putting the ball on the floor and tryna make a play? LMAO

 

Very good defensive player and I will go out on a limp to say he is one of the best rebounders in the league.

But he needs to be hided in crunch time coz opposing team will look for him if they want to foul.

 

What I have seen: A big, tall, good defender in rebounder. So-so scoring ability, and not very athletic. Can score inside solely, I have seen no long range game and little mid-range. This is just what I have thought from watching him though. And I haven't watched him play that many times.

 

You guys need to watch highlights of the Bulls/Heat series, they put under sized scrubs like Joel Anthony and Udonis Haslem on Asik and he did diddly in the first 2-3 games of the series.

 

Here's what Tom Thibodeau has to say:

http://bbs.clutchfans.com/showpost.php?p=6974131&postcount=829

 

He broke his leg that series right

 

thats why I said the first 2-3 games of the series. He was perfectly healthy then

Game 1: 11 mins, 5 points, 2 rebs
Game 2: 16 mins, 0 points 2 rebs
Game 3: 15 mins, 0 points, 1 reb

 

My breakdown on Asik:

Grounded in good fundamentals on both ends.

Fantastic screen man, but suffers from happy feet, leading to offensive fouls.

Despite board and block numbers, he does not get far off the ground.

Marginal leaping can lead to fouls during block attempts when the more explosive players elevate above the rim.

Is such a good blocker largely due to instincts and timing, not leaping ability. Impressive awareness and ability to switch focus onto weak side cutters. Ideal zone rim protector, but picks up plenty of 3 second violations.

Is such a good rebounder largely due to instincts and ability to clear out space, not leaping ability.

Is much quicker off his feet in blocks than he is for boards. Strangely very slow going up for dunks, many times looking worried about getting blocked or stripped.

Hold your breath any time he puts the ball on the floor.

Hold your breath any time he is not squared up and still to receive a pass.

A big feet shuffler with the ball near the basket.

Absolutely no jumper. Horror film at the line.

No low post moves. Bad idea to feed him with his back to the basket unless his man left him.

On offense, you need to just let him live off of put backs - even alley-oops are a TO risk. Never feed him on the move.

Overall: Fantastic massive body off the bench to put under the basket at both ends. Not likely to become a good answer as a full time starter at the position.


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