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Firing Rick - what if the Rockets didn't?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by dachuda86, Jul 2, 2012.

  1. DaDakota

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    Morey hand picked McHale - he will sink or swim with him, IMO.

    DD
     
  2. Mav-Hater

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    Not sure which is worse, the post or that you have rep!
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Not to mention I lost over 2k of my rep in a smackdown, I am Hakeem status baby !!!!

    Keep on apologizing and accepting mediocrity - I have higher standards.

    DD
     
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  4. sugrlndkid

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    Rick didnt like the direction of our team....which was "no direction"...he was shocked and rightfully so...especially when Morey and Les were saying they just wanna keep upgrading...Rick was imo a better coach...we would have the issues that we have with Martin or Lowry, or Scola if Rick was still coaching...

    With that being said...Rick and JVG are miles ahead of Mchale and his coaching ability...its very clear when you see offensive sets Mchale runs...but Mchale gives players a lot more leniency with making plays and running sets...
     
  5. dachuda86

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    Again, another telling sign of this is Lowry's troubles, Martin's troubles, Scolas despite remaining quiet about it. All of these vets can't be happy. Even Chase was saying the team only ran pick and roll (we all saw this) and didn't put him, and likely other players, in positions to play their strengths. THIS is one reason I think the Rockets messed up. They got a guy who doesn't create good plays for HIS PLAYERS. He tries to force squares into circle pegs and if they don't fit its their fault.

    On top of that, Rick knew how to deal with NBA egos. McHale seems to have a wild lockerroom of malcontents for this. On top of that, his lack of coaching ability isn't helping in the veteran respect department. If you can't get respect from the players, then you have no business coaching them.
     
  6. dachuda86

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    Fully disagree... it is more complex than "oh boo hoo, they tried to trade me." It's a matter of how the team isn't running plays conductive to the strengths of the players. Running old Rick plays was an issue that McHale was upset with at points and wasn't happy when players reverted to it. On top of that, we all were witness to the lack of offensive creativity this year and lack of real ball movement. This led to losing and questioning the man's ability as a coach which is easy to figure out and of course: it isn't good.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    I think McHale favors the one on one capability of players over guys who are one dimensional.

    And it will take a while to purge the roster to get his type of players.

    Personally, I prefer Adelman by a long stretch, but I can see where McHale is going.

    DD
     
  8. dachuda86

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    And another thing. Rick makes players look better than they really are. He used them so well that their value goes up (Carl Landry anyone? Scola? Martin?) This is the kind of coach we need if we're going to get players to up value on and trade into better player.

    And no Rick wasn't mainly upset about trading players away. He was upset they tried to replcae his coaching staff. Period.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    Yep, Morey wanted more control, and so did Rick.....they both got it.

    Now the question is, which franchise is in better shape right now?

    Minny, no doubt.

    DD
     
  10. bobrek

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    Adelman had nothing to do with the vast majority of that roster including their main pieces Love and Rubio.
     
  11. DraftBoy10

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    1 year in and we judge? Okay, let's use those parameters. Who was the better team last year?

    And yes, we suffered injuries too(Lowry & Martin), so Rubio's absence isn't much of an excuse.

    Yes, the Timberwolves have arguably two franchise players, and the Rockets have none. I'd still trust our brass before the T-Wolves. They'll be a solid team in the future, but nothing more than a competitive, mid-seed playoff team. We want rings, we're going for the throat.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    When he went to Minny he negotiated more control over deals, because he did not like the way Morey pulled players out from under him in Houston.

    There is no doubt Rick was behind getting Chase to Minny - he knows what players fit his system.

    Would not be surprised to find any number of other players going there to meet back up with him as well.

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    I think Alexander had a great deal to do with it, but we don't need to rehash that, and it's all our opinions anyway. But yeah, Morey has to "score" this season in one way or another. Grab the big star, "Face of the Franchise," and/or field a team that makes some noise in the post season, like we saw with Adelman's team the year we scared the Lakers and Yao went down for the count.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    Huh?

    What have the Rockets done that lead you to believe that they are going for the throat, when every move they have made is one that makes them a tiny bit better.

    Asik ring a bell?

    DD
     
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    weird that the man that got Love to that team...was ironically none other than...Mchale...

    I for one think that Mchale is a really good evaluator of draft talent...and how they would translate into the NBA...but i really dont think he is creative as a coach...
     
  16. DraftBoy10

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    We don't even have Asik, yet. So no, not the Asik move. The pursuit of Dwight, Deron, Carmelo, etc. We're looking to go big. Have we gotten there? No.

    But to say we aren't going for the throat, really?
     
  17. sugrlndkid

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    That's the point...with having a GM like Morey...Adelman should make players better...and that is a responsibility of a coach...make your players better...and minimize their weaknesses..Adelman did a great job of that...

    And yes i do know that Rick was let go bc Morey wanted changes in Adelman's coaching staff...and in the end it was really about a power struggle...
     
  18. dachuda86

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    You really do believe everything you hear from Rockets marketing huh?

    In Morey We Trust...
     
  19. DaDakota

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    The pursuit - eh, that is good enough for you, to simply try?

    Lots of people can try - the elite can execute and get the job done.

    DD
     
  20. teebone21

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    Ricks playbook alone would have gotten us into the playoffs because he doesnt run a 1980's offense like mcfail
     

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