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[CBS] Rockets stockpiling picks for run at Howard, Gasol (UPDATE: Not Gasol)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Jun 27, 2012.

  1. t_mac1

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    Regardless, as a fan, you have to be proud and happy regardless of what happens. Morey is freakin' aggressive as hell trying to bring a star to this team and that's all you can ask for. This dude is trying to do whatever humanly possible to get this team to the next level. Hasn't worked out, but I think eventually it will.
     
  2. Raven

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    No, that isn't all I can ask for. I can ask why Les and Morey continue to pursue a flawed rebuilding plan. Please understand that all of this completely unnecessary drama could probably have been avoided if the Rockets had simply lose an extra ten lousy games.
     
  3. SacTown

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    OK so in your opinion, Tanking is better?
     
  4. Raven

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    Yes! Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, a thousand times yes.
     
  5. dobro1229

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    The rockets now have how many first round picks WITHOUT tanking this past season? If he is able to move up any more at all today then the pro-tankers really can't say much.
     
  6. Raven

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    And if the Rockets had simply won a top five pick, they could use their "assets" for other deals.
     
  7. pbthunder

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    I ain't saying we'd take players we don't want. I'm saying, DM might take their preferences into consideration. If we prefer player A over player B, but not by much, and Orlando would like player B, maybe we change our minds and take him.

    FWIW, I don't want Dwight, anyhow. I'd rather go with the picks we can get.
     
  8. gmoney411

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    Non tankers wanted to make the playoffs. I highly doubt that we would have so much flexibility if we had made the playoffs and lost our first round pick to the Nets. Winning those extra games at this point has only made it harder to get the high picks we are after.
     
  9. HamJam

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    You can't take if you have other assets to use on other deals. Tanking is not talented teams purposely losing, but teams who unload talent and lose. Teams like those do not have a lot of assets to actively make deals, they have to take their lottery ticket and wait in line to be served like a homeless man waiting for soup.

    So, if the Rockets can get a top 5 pick while all the while trying their best to win, how can anyone ask for more?
     
  10. liamrock

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    Just saw Broussard on Sportscenter and he doesn't think there's any chance Howard gets moved tonight because he thinks the new GM will want/need to meet with him first.
     
  11. duluth111222

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    Well said. Tanking means either our "assets" have been unloaded, or they're not good to begin with. Why would other teams want such "assets"?
     
  12. gmoney411

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    Our best assets are Lowry, DMo, Parsons and Morris. We could have tanked while keeping all of them.
     
  13. ima_drummer2k

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    Tanking IS purposely losing to improve draft position. Like the spurs did to get Duncan. And the Rockets did to get Sampson....

    Unloading older talent so you can develop younger players is NOT tanking. That is called REBUILDING. They are not the same thing at all.

    When building a house, you have to lay the foundation down before you start bringing in all the new furniture.
     
  14. J.R.

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    Yeah, said Houston isn't getting Howard and Howard isn't getting moved. Said they could look to Rudy Gay or Pau Gasol. Not as much interest in Pau as before, because last year they thought they could get Nene with Pau. Pau now, alone, not as much interest.

    Stephen A. yelling the TV, saying Dwight doesn't want to be in Houston, so why go through the efforts if he doesn't want to be there. He understands and respects what Houston is trying to do but says again, Dwight doesn't want to be there.
     
  15. MambaJoe

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    Is the Rockets that desperate for a star that they will go after just anyone who made the all star team once in their lifetime? OMG if this is true, I say Morey is the worst GM in Rockets history. Terrible. What is worst is that Pau has a big contract too and he's declining fast.

    Look at Pau Gasol in this year playoff against OKC. He was just plain terrible to the point Kobe even mentioned it. Pau lost his confindence in his game as well. So how in the world is he going to gain his confidence back by coming to Houston and carrying the load? He would suck more here anyway. What a waste of all those picks. Just sad if Houston even considered going after Pau Gasol... The Rockets are just terrible, going after other team's trash that they trying to dump out.

    If the Lakers don't think Pau is good enough to help them contend, why in the world the Rockets would think he's good enough to make them contenders in the West? Pau Gasol was in a better team, he was playing with one of the best players in the league in Kobe and they didn't even challenged the OKC Thunders. Now he's going to a much worser team that is younger with nothing but role players and the Rockets expect him to lead this team to contend? If he somehow comes over here, I say he will probably produce just as much as Scola did or less.
     
  16. dobro1229

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    Had the rockets tanked they would have had no assets to trade. Lowry, bud, dally... Those players wouldn't get you squat.

    Had the rockets made a playoff run, and those players on the roster had performed well, their stock in trades would have risen dramatically as well.

    If the Rockets would have tried to lose games on purpose the young talent they had would have kept them out of the running for the top 5 worst records. There was no way around the inevitable. They were stuck in the middle one way or another, but the bounty of assets they have going into today should make pro tankers like you feel like they are doing something right here.

    I guess so called fans like you aren't going to agree to anything so there really isn't a point in arguing about it.
     
  17. UTAllTheWay

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    Nobody has any idea what they are talking about. Rockets are obviously trying to move up, and they really want Dwight Howard... A trade for Dwight will definitely NOT happen tonight, there's just no way.

    Outside of that, everything is pure speculation.
     
  18. dobro1229

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    Lowry carried the team in the first half of the season. Your wrong. The rockets would not have been bad enough to secure anything better than a top 8 or 9 pick. If you think they honestly could have been one of the 5 worst teams in the league last yeae then you are stretching here just to be right in you argument.
     
  19. Raven

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    Rudy Gay? Gasol? Epic fail. Just get it freaking over with, draft a couple of rookies, and officially start the rebuild.
     
  20. dobro1229

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    That's the end goal, but tonight the goal is to move up into the top 5, while retaining as many assets as they can. Then in July they can have better options at dwight or another star with that top pick in hand and other assets still on the roster. Worse comes to worst and they have to keep that top prospect next season and the pro tankers can't say sh#$ Boo hoo.
     

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