Hakeem is a Muslim and Dwight Howard is a Christian

The hate, disdain, and blind ignorance shown by some in this forum toward other's beliefs and cultures really sickens me.

 

both have illegitimate children, but hey, nobody's perfect

 

Just because Hakeem could play basketball does not mean he is worthy of following in his footsteps.

DD

 

One of the worst threads I've seen, personally.

 

Agreed. DD and ATW will have a anti-Islam field day with this one.

 

I despise all religions. Especially those that are a threat to me. Also, Telling me Hakeem is a Muslim tells me nothing about what he believes (does he want to kill all the infidels?). Same for Howard

 

Again I will state...Muslims are not the problem. Islamic ideology is.

 

Agreed. Terrible thread.

 

The funny thing is that anyone born to parents whom are considered Muslim are automatically counted as Muslim whether they want to be or not.

It is very bizzare.....

Just let people choose for themselves when they are old enough to do so without threat of their choice being a problem for their lives and see what happens.

Of course, Islam and it's bully pulpit would never want that to happen.

DD

 

Pretty sure every religion works like that.

A Baptist family baptizes their child.
A Hindu family takes their kid to the temple.
A Jewish mom takes her kid to the synagogue.

Those kids are considered Baptist, Hindu, Jewish automatically.

I think the only religion where kids are not automatically considered part of that religion is Scientology.

 

The difference of course is that all of those religions you cited are free to leave and try out others, including NOT believing without any ramifications and they are protected in that ability in most forward thinking countries.

Unlike the middle east.

DD

 

So you agree that people should not be judged harshly for being Muslims?

 

As a Christian, I raise my children with Christian ideals and in a way that I believe is best for them...ultimately though it is their choice to choose to continue following Christianity, not mine.

Their salvation depends totally on their choice. If they choose not to follow Christ in their adult years, it will be upsetting, but that is their choice.

In Islam the punishment for apostasy is...well you know.

There is a difference between devotion and obligated devotion.

God bless y'all!

 

I agree...in Australia we have a saying...there is a spider in every web, a mongrel in every litter.

Not all Muslims are bad people, just as all Christians are not good people.

 

Terrible, just terrible.

The regular bigots have shown up again.

Everyone, kindly keep this thread and bigotry in D&D.

 

Hakeem has more rings.
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nope. baptists refuse to baptize children. they'll baptize you when they believe you're old enough to make that decision.

split in the Church that goes back about 2,000 years regarding when a person should be baptized.

 

That is why it is so important to learn about the context of religious teachings and scriptures and not just Fox News it up by taking verses out of context and sounding the hate alarm.

Islam does not condone executing people that reject Islam and switch to another belief. A main part of Islamic belief is that God has given people free choice, to believe or disbelieve. They can follow God's rulings or say "Eff it, I'll do whatever I want" and God will sort everything out in the afterlife and judge you based on your actions and choices. That being said, someone can leave or reject Islam and follow whatever he wishes, God isn't going to throw down a lightening bolt and strike him/her down. Granted, it's not something that is liked but it's allowable. The execution of a apostate can only occur when rejecting Islam borders treason, where there is this malicious attack on the faith and its followers whether verbally or physically. That is punishable by death. Heck, treason can be punishable by death in a good number of countries, including the USA. So I don't see how that's barbaric, backward etc.

There are different magnitudes of apostasy. Some minor (not following Islam, leaving Islam, converting to a different religion) some major (treason).

In the Qur'an, it is stated that apostasy is a despised thing by God and there will be punishment for those who do so when it comes to the afterlife but there isn't a single explicit mention of any earthly penalty, such as they should be executed.

Another verse in the Qur'an says point blank: There is no compulsion/coercion in religion. You don't get bent out of shape and declare death on those that don't agree with your beliefs.

And aside from that, the Prophet Muhammad spoke against the unjustly killing those that weren't Muslim. Quotes and actions of the Prophet are recorded in books called Hadith (def. Traditions) that Muslims read and put into practice aside from what they read and practice in the Qur'an. Some of the Prophet's sayings include:

Note: The parentheticals are the references to the books where the Prophet Muhammad's quotes and actions were gathered, recorded and compiled.

"He who believes in God and the Last Day should honour his guest, should not harm his neighbour, should speak good or keep quiet." (Bukhari, Muslim)

"Whoever hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state hurts me, and he who hurts me annoys God." (Bukhari)

"He who hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state, I am his adversary, and I shall be his adversary on the Day of a Judgement." (Bukhari)

"Beware on the Day of Judgement; I shall myself be complainant against him who wrongs a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state or lays on him a responsibility greater than he can bear or deprives him of anything that belongs to him." (Al-Mawardi)

"Anyone who kills a Non-Muslim who had become our ally will not smell the fragrance of Paradise." (Bukhari)

Nuff said, Peace ya'll.