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Children as young as 12 in jail

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Mathloom, Jun 27, 2012.

  1. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ate-of-children-clapped-in-irons-7888914.html

    I hear the UK is going to write them a very rude letter.
     
  2. AroundTheWorld

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    http://justiceformydad.com/blog/2012/06/12/evening-standard/

    Video: ‘My father is innocent but I fear that he will die in Dubai prison’, says daughter of hunger strike prisoner

    The 13-year-old daughter of a south London property developer on hunger strike in a Dubai prison fears her father will “never come back home”.
    Safi Qurashi, 43, from Balham, whose firm paid £39 million in 2008 for the Britain-shaped island in Dubai’s The World development, is said to be in a delicate condition after collapsing in his cell on Friday, more than 40 days into the protest against his sentence.
    Today his daughter, Sara, called for him to be freed, saying: “ What if he doesn’t come home? This is not fair, he’s innocent, why is he in there?”
    Mr Qurashi was jailed for seven years in 2010 for bouncing cheques worth £50 million during the country’s property crash. He maintains he is innocent. He is one of up to 20 foreigners on hunger strike in Dubai jails accused of bouncing cheques — a criminal offence in the United Arab Emirates.
    Sara has made a YouTube video in which she says her father would “rather die than be in prison”. The family, who live in Dubai, claim court reports prove his innocence and that he was a victim of fraud. Dubai’s attorney general and advocate general have reviewed the case and the family will meet them next week, hoping to secure his release.
    Mr Qurashi is diabetic and asthmatic. His wife Huma, 41, said Sara and her brother Yusuf, six, and sister Maaria, 11, can only visit him on Saturdays for 15 minutes. They must use an intercom and can only see him through a screen. Mrs Qurashi said: “I feel really concerned about Safi and his health, and the children are suffering.”
    The World, a man-made archipelago shaped like the globe’s landmasses, hit trouble when Nakheel Properties, the developer, admitted it could not pay its debts. Mr Qurashi intended to turn his 11-acre island into a resort.
    Today the Foreign Office said: “We have been in regular touch with him and his family and continue to provide consular assistance and advice. However, we cannot interfere in another country’s legal and judicial process.”

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/v...ughter-of-hunger-strike-prisoner-7844062.html
     
  3. AroundTheWorld

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    WOMEN FILIPINO INMATES WITH CHILDREN IN DUBAI PRISON

    Last week, Migrante-Middle East (M-ME), care of this writer, received reports about the more or less fifteen (15) women OFW inmates with children, in a jail in Dubai, United Arab Emirates.

    The report M-ME received was from a recently released female OFW inmate (who requested not to be named) that there are about 100 OFW inmates, 15 of them with children, languishing at Muraqabat prison for women in Dubai.

    This report is quite disturbing. The innocent children have been exposed to the adversities and bitter realities of prison life.

    An expatriate friend of mine who works as a reporter for a local media firm in Dubai corroborated the information about women OFW inmates with children in that Dubai jail.

    In an email sent to me, she conveyed that she was in the women’s prison on another story few weeks ago when she noticed all these kids in a little courtyard area. “I assumed it was ‘family visiting day’ but when I asked the guard, she told me they live there. They don’t ever get to go out of the prison compound and receive no education,” she conveyed to me.

    The children should not be in jail in the first place though their mothers are.

    We came to know that some of the women OFWs were charged of illicit affairs. Unfortunately, they became pregnant and while serving their time in jail delivered a baby.

    A number of them who claimed they were sexually abused and got pregnant, have ran away, but their employer charged them of absconding and other trumped up charges such as stealing and illicit affairs, thus they were sent behind bars.

    Why the PH post in Dubai could not seek with the local authorities the release of OFW inmates and their children for humanitarian consideration or ask for clemency to shorten their jail term?

    The PH diplomatic post could even arrange to talk with the OFW inmates and convince them to coordinate with their families in the Philippines so that the children will be sent home, after getting them the required documentation, and place the children under temporary care of their relatives in the Philippines.

    We have already asked Migrante officers in Dubai to look deeply into this report and liaise with the PH consulate officials in Dubai to provide assistance to the OFW inmates and their children.

    To ensure that they will be properly attended, Migrante-ME will coordinate with the PH post officials to arrange and prioritize attending their case and work for their immediate repatriation.

    We know very well that the only entity that could verify the information is the PH consulate itself as they have the legal recognition by the local authorities. It could in fact arrange a jail visit and if they’re doing this then for sure they must have exact numbers/figures of children inside UAE jails. Now if they don’t have, they maybe are just sleeping on their job.

    We raised this issue not as a matter of counting numbers/figures, but a serious concern since we have received corroborating statements from an OFW inmate who have stayed months inside the jail and a foreign reporter who was given a chance not only once but many times to visit various jails in Dubai.

    If we will not raise this issue, who will do? Who will care these innocent children?

    http://www.migrant-rights.org/2011/...lipino-inmates-with-children-in-dubai-prison/
     
  4. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    What are you doing?
     
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    He's attention whoring.

    Probably also mad because you chose not to reply to his other thread.

    Lol ATW is freaking pathetic man.
     
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    I am showing that children are in jail in Dubai, that the government you work for is treating children and migrant workers very badly, and that you should work on improving things in your own backyard before you constantly try to demonize another country, just because your fanatical ideology and closeness to the jihad goals of the extremist, terrorist Muslim Brotherhood encourages you to hate Israel and Jews.
     
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    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Ok, well I disagree with your suggestion of geographical or nationalistic prioritization for child imprisonement issues, or any serious issue for that matter. You've told me to do this many times, but in case you didn't notice I don't take orders from you. I will not do it, and you don't have to bombard my threads with issues related vaguely to the topic of the thread, and always related to what you think is my race/religion/nationality.

    That is your choice, your personal problem with me, it's not a matter for discussion, and it's not a matter I'm obligated to address.

    Now you've started a thread about Dubai, and as you can see no one has any interest in discussing that topic, including me. There is nothing in that thread but, by your own admission, poo-flinging. If there was any desire to discuss Dubai in the manner that other topics are regularly discussed on the board, I would partake in a civilized discussion and try to contribute. Despite that, you have decided to try to bring the topic into this thread in an attempt to do what exactly?

    That's on display for everyone to see and decide for themselves.

    I have no desire to come into all your threads and destroy the direction of the conversation by making personal attacks, posting borderline bigoted pictures and spamming the thread with the first few inflammatory links you find in google. I am not going to do that, I have no desire to drag this board down. People are clearly not interested in our exchanges, and don't need to see them, so there is little point in us arguing endlessly hijacking various threads.

    The story I posted is real, recent and based on an independent inquiry funded by a traditional ally of Israel. It is serious news, and shouldn't be taken lightly. If you have any input, we'd like to hear your analysis.
     
  9. AroundTheWorld

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    Liar. I never spoke about your race. Not once. All I talk about is your ideological fanatism.

    You are avoiding the topic because you would rather point fingers at others. Your Islamist friends are trying to derail that thread. Yet, it is out there for everyone to see: Looks like there has been a crackdown on Islamists in Dubai - they are imprisoned and one doesn't know where they are. Interesting - they certainly seem to get less due process rights than Islamists in Germany or other countries. Whose side are you on? The Islamists? Or the government you work for?

    Nope. You avoid the topic because you know that you would be in hot water either way. You are SCARED to discuss the topic.

    So is the story about how children are in prison in Dubai - and how Filipino women are thrown in jail just because they expect children outside of a marriage because that is supposedly "immoral" - they are treated like 2nd class citizens.

    Wasn't that exactly what you were whining about with regard to how Palestinians are treated in Israel when you started this thread?

    So why do you like pointing fingers at Israel, but refuse to talk about the exact same thing happening in Dubai (one group of inhabitants being treated with lesser rights, children being in jail)?

    I'll tell you:

    Because you are a hypocrite, and a fanatical Islamist who will always blame Israel and the USA for everything, but will refuse to acknowledge it when an Islamic country does the same - and even the government you actually work for, which means you are even more of a hypocrite.
     
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    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    More personal attacks. I tried to engage you in a civilized way. Nothing more I can do.
     
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    You could address the issue of what is going on in Dubai - mistreatment of migrant workers, no due process rights for prisoners, crackdown on Islamism, crazy laws about unmarried women put in jail because they are pregnant, children in jail, crazy laws about homosexuality.

    You could do that. That is not nothing.
     
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    Not to mention extremely heavy-handed internet censorship.

    So have you complained to your employer yet that your internet is so heavily censored?
     
  13. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Dubai is a facade of a country - get those people out of prison, hos sickening is that?

    Also sickening to have 12 year olds in prison in Israel.

    The middle EAST SUCKS BALLS !

    DD
     
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    The problem is that Hamas and similar organizations indoctrinate the children from such an early age that they can pose a threat, even at age 12, they could already be full of hate. Still, they should be treated differently from older people and should get all due process rights.
     
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    Like maybe a state sponsored school that teaches them the truth about the world beyond Hamas BS Islamic message.

    DD
     
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    Good god, do you have to derail every thread in the D&D and bring it back to your focal goal of spreading Islam hatred?
     
  17. DaDakota

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    He is not spreading hatred, just pointing out that it is inherent in the teachings of a certain religion.

    DD
     
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    Oh, right, because this thread is about the inherent flaws of religion. :rolleyes:

    Trolls.
     
  19. AroundTheWorld

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    This thread is about pointing fingers at the usual enemy and scapegoat of Islamists like yourself for something that, as we can see, happens within the authority of the government the thread starter himself works for (but refuses to comment on, when it's about his own government/state rather than the usual scapegoat Israel which he consistently tries to portray as the devil).

    Thus, pointing out his hypocrisy is absolutely justified.
     
  20. trueroxfan

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    Twelve-year-olds in prison is minimal in the grand scope of Israel's fascist policies.
     
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