ESPN: Rockets talking trade-up with Kings, Raptors -- targeting Dwight or Drummond?

Yes, if the Rockets were essentially dealing away Lowry, Dalembert, [either Martin or Scola] and their first round picks in the various deals to acquire Dwight Howard (WITHOUT taking back a big contract like Hedo's), they WOULD conceivably have enough cap room to also sign Deron Williams outright as a free agent. However, they may have to let one of Goran Dragic or Courtney Lee go. My guess would be that, if D-Will is willing to sign with the Rockets, they'd just bid farewell to Dragic. I think they'd also part ways with Camby (unless he's willing to sign for the $2.5M Room Exception).

Cap-wise, the Rockets could conceivably field a starting lineup next season of:

Deron Williams
Courtney Lee
Chandler Parsons
Luis Scola
Dwight Howard

They'd also still have a handful of quality young guys remaining even after the trades.

That would be one hell of a team.

 

Looks like it could be Lowry for 8th pick. Wouldn't be bad if we could get both the 5th and 8th picks without giving up both of our mid-first round picks. Having the 5th, 8th, and say 16th pick would be nice.



Last week, Rumor Central's Nick Borges broke down the many options Toronto has with the No. 8 pick, and now there is word that the Raptors could be looking to trade it for Rockets point guard Kyle Lowry.

Bill Ingram of HoopsWorld.com writes in a chat session today that he's "hearing Lowry for the No. 8 pick."

If this happens, it would likely open the door for Toronto to amnesty Jose Calderon, who is due to make just over $10.5 million in the final year of his deal next season. It would also end the talks of Steve Nash signing with the Raptors.

In addition, this would be big for Houston, which is rumored to want two lottery picks that it can then package in a deal for Dwight Howard. The Rockets are said to have a deal in the works with Sacramento for the No. 5 pick.

 

I would explode if that was our starting line up next season.

 

I really like the idea of pairing up Martin and Howard.

They do want to get Salmons off the books. The last part of my post mentions Scola being traded there as well. He would be a great fit next to Cousins. They also could trade Evans and the 5th pick for the 8th (Lillard), 14th and Scola.

 

right now he wouldn't… But if we get Howard, then there for sure will not be a "big 3" in dallas this season… and if we clear the books through getting Howard we would have room to sign D-will.. he wan't play with a superstar, Howard is a superstar...

 

Per Chad Ford's mock draft. If nothing else goes through I'd take the 10th pick over 14th and 16th. Thoughts?

 

Well just trading for the #5 and #8 picks in themselves would be bold moves. Picking up Drummond thereafter would be VERY bold.

If the Rockets were able to get the #14 pick again next year, with the benefit of having picked up two high lotto picks that could be franchise changers, that'd be MUCH different than the last three #14 picks.

so says you, a guy with absolutely no idea what Deron will or won't do. Those with much more of an idea, though understandable still not Deron himself, think differently:

If Deron's going to take a paycut, he's indicating he's going to do so in Dallas.

There are other places better than Dallas or Houston (with Dwight) he'd COULD take a paycut to play for. the Nets could work out a sign and trade for Gasol (plus filler), for example. The Nets would probably be open to that. Gasol does well what Lopez does poorly. Gasol and Lopez are a solid frontcourt. And its better than losing Deron for nothing. Kobe, Deron and Bynum are a Big 3 to match the heat for sure. And have a better shot at the championship than Williams+Nowitzki or Williams+Howard.

But he's not saying trade me to the Lakers. Cause if he's going to take a paycut (as he would have to in a sign and trade now), he's going to do so for Dallas, not LA, or Houston...

 

While checking the Kings fan forum, sounds like they want to get Dalermbert back and get rid of Hayes.

Also according to earlier tweets, the deal in discussion maybe Dalermbert+16 for Hayes+5. The logic behind maybe that the Kings don't see much difference in picks 7-16, so that they are willing to trade down 'a couple' spots and get rid of Chuck's 'bad contract'.

 

Stuff like this makes me want to cry

 

Yes it is because Williams will not even entertain the thought of coming to Houston unless he's certain that Howard will be there past the one year. Please explain WHY simply trading for Howard would accomplish that given the fact that Howard will be free to walk unless he signs an extension and he'd have to first sign that extension in order to convince Williams to come to Houston.

 

If Deron signs elsewhere, 3 way it for Bynum with Dwight going to LA and 5th pick, Martin, Morris and 16th pick going to Orlando. (Assuming we get the King's pick).

Sign back Lee, Dragic, and Camby

Dragic
Lee
Parsons/Bud
Scola/Dmo
Bynum/Camby

 

wow, they hate the chuck hayes contract that much? I just don't see that happening. It's a terrible deal for Sac-town, but ...would love it from a rockets' standpoint.

 

No, thanks. You can get two talents at #14 and #16 on the same level of whoever's available at #10. The only benefit to moving up to #10 is getting to pick among those (similarly-situated) prospects.

I wouldn't deal both picks to move up unless it was to #8 at the lowest. I'd rather pick at one of those spots and then move down/out for other additional assets.

 

The Seattle Supersonics drafted Kevin Durant and then the team moved to OKC.

As far as not knowing about team building?

Dude...PLEASE!

Its common sense!

You dont trade away half your team and future prospects for a rental.

The only time you MAY do that is if you are on the cusp and need that extra boost to get you over the hump...

We arent even close to the cusp!

Rox would just be attempting to get dude just so they can say they have a "superstar???"

And they know he's gonna leave after one season and they are okay with that?

LOL!

He is not signing without D-Will...

You not gettin D-Will.....

Give it up!

 

Yeah, it's ****.

Spoiler

http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba2-chicago-bulls-chasing-dwight-howard

Houston Rockets Closing On #5, #8 Picks In the Draft?

The Houston Rockets are the talk of the rumor mill this week, as the team has ramped up efforts to get into the lottery. In fact, we’re hearing that the Rockets may have a line on two picks in the top ten in this week’s NBA draft.

First and foremost, there’s the #5 pick. Sources close to the situation told HOOPSWORLD last week that the Rockets were closing on a deal that would send out Samuel Dalembert and the 16th pick and get Houston into the lottery. It’s now being suggested that the Sacramento Kings are the other team involved, and the Houston would land the 5th pick in the draft. The Kings have been looking for a starting center to put next to DeMarcus Cousins, who could slide over to the power forward position, and Dalembert is a know commodity in Sacramento. He’s not an exciting player, but he is a solid defender and rebounder who is content to work without the ball. Of course, he could also be bought out and give the Kings some maneuvering room for free agency. For their part, the Rockets have a lot of interest in Andre Drummond, and believe he would play hard and turn into a dominant low post player under head coach Kevin McHale’s watchful eye. Drummond would be available at 5, as things stand today, but probably not much lower.

Over the weekend another rumor surfaced involving Houston and a lottery pick, this time the #8 currently held by the Toronto Raptors. The Raptors have long had an eye for Rockets point guard Kyle Lowry, and the emergence of Goran Dragic this season made Lowry somewhat expendable in Houston. Given that Toronto is looking for help at point and at the three this summer, adding Lowry would absolutely solidify one of those positions for years to come. They could then use Jose Calderon as bait in a move for a small forward.

Given that the Rockets are also looking to move Kevin Martin this summer, they could draft Austin Rivers to play behind Courtney Lee at the two, or perhaps look to shore up the front line with John Henson. Given that Houston is also talking to Orlando about a trade for Dwight Howard, they could use any combination of the aforementioned players as pieces in a trade, as well.

It’s going to be a make-or-break year in Houston, where team owner Les Alexander is growing impatient with the slow development of the team. If GM Daryl Morey can pull off a couple of draft day surprises the Rockets could finally be back on course as a perennial playoff team in the ever-tougher Western Conference.

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Seth Davis(SI/CBS) on Drummond, other bigs:

Spoiler

Do you believe in Andre Drummond at the NBA level?

I'm a believer. He won't remind Rockets fans or anyone of Hakeem. He'll never be a great offensive player. He is 18 years old. A legit 7 footer. Agile and strong. High character kid. Not a great motor. A solid pick. It'll be a couple of years [to see the results]. Sullinger and Robinson can help you right away. Gilchrist, Drummond, Leonard, they'll take longer. Drummond does have a NBA ready body. His maturity, motor, effort, toughness, that is something that hasn't turned on with him. If it doesn't turn on, he won't be successful in the NBA.

Zeller, Henson, Leonard and Moultrie - like any of those?

I like Zeller. Tyler Zeller, outside of Davis, more certainty about Zeller than anyone else in this draft. That isn't to say he is the 2nd best player in this draft. Guy goes 7 foot, strong, scorer around the basket, can play pick and pop. A true center. God willing, he can be in the league 12-14 years.

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Chad Ford on ESPN Radio:

Spoiler

Andre Drummond is the guy they are looking at if they make the trade AND keep the pick.

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We know it's the draft or trade deadline if the Houston Rockets are active. We hear a million different Houston Rockets rumors. ... 2 picks in the top 10 for Dwight Howard, I'm still not sure that's enough.

Ford: It may not be but there are a limited number of teams Howard will go to. Most would not give up any assets for him because he'll leave for FA at the end of the year. So you have a very narrow list of teams. Of those teams he wants to go to, very few have assets to give anything to Orlando. Dallas has nothing. If LA doesn't give up Bynum, nothing really that would excite Orlando. NJ, maybe a signed Lopez [on a huge deal] and Brooks or whatever. If you're Hennigan, coming over from OKC, how they've built in the draft, maybe Houston could offer the best deal. Howard hasn't said he would play in Houston but Morey is one GM willing to role the dice much like Brooklyn last year with Deron Williams and say we'll convince him to stay with another year. That may be the best deal they'll get for Howard--a couple of first round picks and maybe a couple of players off the Rockets roster.

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=8094476

 

Understandable. They will have enough young guys. Yound vets like Dragic is what they really need.

 

I agree. Why is Scola in there?

 

What if the Kings want Lillard? He's currently projected to go between 8-10. Could the Rockets send Toronto Kyle Lowry for the 8th pick then turn around and flip it to the Kings along with the 16th pick for the 5th pick?

 

theres no way we get the no 5 for dalembert and no 16 lol...sam and 14/16 would be a hard sell...but thats at least plausible.

I would imagine we are trading dalembert and 14 and 16 (maybe taking on chucks contract).... and may have to give up morris or patterson as well.