I'm sorry...am I coming off as original and possessing my own thoughts? As for the topic at hand, 14 and 16 for Noah would make a TON of sense if we were one dominant frontcourt player away from a top seed in the West. BUT...we're not. We need to rebuild this team with talented, promising youth. However, stubborn Les says he doesn't want to do that. He wants to win now. Adding Noah doesn't make us that much more likely to win the West next season. Also, it's not like Joakim Noah coming to Houston entices a big name Free Agent to come join him for a 1995-96 repeat. On the other hand, if we package 14 and 16 and a player or two to move up for the 7th or 8th pick and draft Lillard or Waiters....well, now we've got a true building block. Most of you can be immune to my ideas all you'd like, and I'm sincerely sorry I don't think exactly the same way you do ...but I've been seeing the same old show since 1997 in Houston. And the really sad thing is we're still doing the same ol' thing and hoping we'll get better.
Let's get something straight, Morey was behind the Battier for Gay trade, not CD! CD WAS STILL ON THE STAFF but Morey pushed for it. He has said it on more than a few occasions. Besides, if they were going to use the pick that year, it would have been for Thabo Sefolosha. Another Battier type player, which would have been a bad move either way The more and more I assess Morey, he does not make good decisions in round 1 of the draft. For whatever reasons, he error on the conservative side. Look at his picks in the past; Aaron Brooks, Patrick Patterson, and Marcus Morris; players who are skilled but maxed out! The have no room to grow This draft should be about SHOOTING FOR THE STARS!! Players like Perry Jones and Myers Leonard. They may not be the best players now but in 2 to 3 yrs, they have the ability to be come potential star players. Take a chance and roll the dice. If Morey made a few key trades/moves, say Martin for Omer Asik and #29 and Lowry for Demar Derozan and Amnesty Scola or trade him for a young point guard, possibly Scola for Maurice Williams and a future draft pick . You would have a roster of Center - Omer/ Camby /Leonard Power Forward - Pat/D-Mo/ #29 pick Small Forward - Parsons/Morris/Jones Two Guard - Lee/Derozan/Bud Point - Dragic/ Maurice Williams This give us a complete team now and the ability to improve in the future. Les is happy because he can win now and later, the fans are happy because we have young exciting players; Perry Jones, Myers Leonard, and Demar Derozan, D- Mo and Dragic.
I totally agree about Morey. I don't know why he's a good 2nd Round GM only. About DeRozan...he's an exciting player, but I don't know enough about him defensively. Is he much of an upgrade over Martin in that area?
with noah and his defense, hustle and rebounding, we would be a four or five seed with the 56.7% possibility of getting out of the second round alive.(my maury simulator gave me that number)
I'm sorry what? How is Noah not talented promising youth? At this point in time, I would much prefer a young dominant defensive center over unproven combo guards. Do you have any idea how to build a team? Having a center of Noah's caliber and age is very hard to find. Much harder than perimeter players. Also way more important. We wouldn't want Noah just as a contender. He is easily a building block for the future. You always try to build from the frontcourt up. Doesn't matter any way, as I would be stunned if Noah was available for the 14th and 16th. The fact that you would call that a disappointment is just laughable. You totally fail man. By the way, what was your great idea this time? Moving the picks to get into the top 8? Yea I really haven't heard that one before...... That's just so creative man. In any case, I'm pretty sure they would do that if they could. Things aren't always that easy....... At least not as easy as demanding a trade up without any knowledge of what is happening behind the scenes.
Why are people so against the Battier trade? It was clearly the right move at the time. It was no one's fault that Yao and McGrady broke down. Getting a player of Battier's caliber was a very big step toward contention for that club. You make that move for prime Shane every time when you have two superstars on your team. 33 year old Shane was instrumental in the Heat run this year. Without him, we could have easily seen another team emerge. What the **** has Rudy Gay ever done except get overpaid? Shane just won a ring last night and you guys are still bashing his value to a contender. Just look in front of you. SMFH.....
I guess we have an answer to the question of "How can you possibly follow up the 'Lebron isn't a superstar thread?'".
Because it was with the Heat at a much smaller role. Totally different from our situation. If you cant see the Rockets of Yao and Tmac are not the Heattrio and losing Rudy Gay to have now instead of Battier being on the Heat? Thats your problem and Moreys.
Battier winning does not make Morey a genius if he did it with the Heat for next to nothing getting him. Its a completely different scenario and team. Who didnt spend a first round draft pick. Morey still has 0 to show for that move and at the time it was still a bad move and to this day. Because we are not the Heat.
I was thinking the samething. But no way the bulls will trade Noah. He's too important to them. I'm thinking it might be Paul Millsap of the Jazz. It makes too much sense FOR THEM to make a trade for one of our picks since they don't have a first round pick and they have a glut of power forwards they needto develop.
If the Rockets had the opportunity to trade the 14 and 16 for Marc Gasol, that would not make us contenders. Logically, we should reject such a trade should that opportunity arise. Seriously, I know a lot of people seem to think that actually making a better team is a terrible thing these days, but there has to be a limit. And claiming that Lillard is going to be the guy leading us to the promised land is that.
Yeah yeah but at the time we had our two superstars we just needed role players, not a young player to develop. We might need that dynamic high flying player now but its no reason to even be bothered with it. Its too late now plus Rudy Gay still has to prove that trade was a mistake and if he does hopefully by then we would have found our next corner stone player.
Just because they are your thoughts doesn't make them good or creative. In fact, your other threads have proven quite the contrary. Further more, I think you are confused on what it means to have young, building block talent. A defensively dominant, top 20 rebounding center under 25 qualifies as a young building block in most peoples minds. Sub-par combo guards on the other hand, do not.
