Would you give up the #14 and #16 picks of this draft to land Pau Gasol?

I would not think that the Rockets want to go into training camp with 4 rookies - D-Mo, the 14th and 16th picks and for all practical purposes Morris. I would expect a move that at least trims it down to 3 rookies. But this time of year I imagine things get down right Machiavellian around the NBA. Scheming, planning, plundering, looting and all that.

 

I would if they take Scola's contract off our hands and don't ask for Lowry.

 

We'll be good with his 16.8 ppg as we are with Martin's 17.1 ppg

 

I dont agree Dalembert's contract is an asset since it offers a team considerable salary relief. Teams may not want him but he allows them to create roughly $9m in cap space pending he's moved and bought out before his option date kicks in.

2011/12 contract of $7m which is still on the books till July 1 X150% trade value subtracting the buyout of $1.5m which would be all that affected the cap should he be bought out prior to July 1.
Getting rid of Dalembert's contract isnt a priority - Its not a problem contract and for the next ten days is actually a desirable one.


Gasol is easily the better player but two years at $38.2m is a tough pill to swallow considering you get near the same production from Scola for $19m over two years with an out for the 3rd.

The only way you take on Gasol's contract is if you get a young player with serious potential or a very high draft choice in return.

What I would consider doing is packaging Scola and a pick(s) for Gasol in a three way deal that nets an early lotto pick from a 3rd team like the Wizards.

LA gets Scola and 16
Washington gets Gasol and 14 + Dallas future pick.
Houston gets Okafor and 4 (Okafor , Ariza +46 were swapped for Rashard Lewis today)

Not sure that deal is fair - just an example of if I were part of a deal involving Gasol what I would be looking to accomplish.

 

Where did you find the information that Scola's contract has a 3rd year buyout?

The other point we are just going to have to disagree on.

 

I think its common knowledge that the final year of Scola's deal worth $11,041,037 is only partially guaranteed - I believe its performance based but dont quote me on that.
Not certain what portion is guaranteed but I think it safe to say there would be significant cap savings in a buyout scenario meaning the final year of his deal could afford a team cap savings similar to what I describe above from Dalember prior to July1.

Looking at Scola's contract under those terms tells us that next year that contract may be a liability but the following year it becomes an asset.

 

Fixed

 

I already posted it in the other Gasol thread but here


Scola:
Contract:
12/13: $09,408,207
13/14: $10,224,622
14/15: $11,041,037
Total: $30,673,866
*Final year fully unguaranteed but guaranteed if performance milestones are met.

Gasol:
Contract:
12/13: $19,000,000
13/14: $19,285,850
Total: $38,285,850

 

Thank you all for the help. Much appreciated.

 

I'd prefer to use our picks (+ Lowry) to move up in the draft for a young, sustainable solution.

 

Nice post.

 

Thanks for the clarification ....

To be completely honest , it may not have a buyout clause built in but I think a contract with that type of language written into it makes reaching a buyout very easy for both parties thus affording a team cap savings in a trade scenario as I stated above.

Think of Fisher when traded to the Rockets when under a $3m final year ... wasnt his buyout $600k ish? Or New Orleans taking on Rashard Lewis contract today to buy it out thus opening up cap space.



Im not against Gasol the player, I think he would be a significant upgrade at either C or PF (at least on the offesive end). Im just against taking on that much salary which would handcuff them at least in the short term.

 

but here is the thing about cap space....its overrated. think about all the teams that were clearing the decks to land Lebron, only one team did and everyone else ended up maxing out guys like amare and boozer....oops.

Cap space doesn't mean a damn thing if you don't use it. It means even less if you are forced to overpay a middling role player.

So, while i agree, Gasol is arguably overpaid for what he is right now, he remains to be an upgrade at two positions, which can't be overlooked. Its a two year commitment to what would be the best player on the team.

I don't like the idea of Gasol personally, but I can understand him coming over.

 

**** you.

**** all Gasol threads and thread starters.

By the way, the predictive text on my smart phone still turns "Gasol" into "fail."

 

thank you for your contributions to the conversation.

 

I assume you are being totally sincere.

 

So could the Rockets amnesty Scola before the 13-14 season and not owe him his 14-15 salary assuming he doesn't meet the performance milestones?

 

Yeah, I remember finding this out from HMMMHMM about a year ago. I thought Scola's last year had a partial guarantee, but it doesn't, as you pointed out. Someone else (Bima? Clutch?) said that those kinds of "performance milestones" on the last year of a deal are usually damn near impossible to meet, so the last year may end up being a big expiring contract. I'm guessing that that's exactly what it will be, fully unguaranteed.

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=207091&highlight=performance+milestones

 

I agree cap space is worthless under the worst of circumstances and having it doesnt mean successfully landing your target FA , in fact , its not likely you land that star FA without some sort of S&T when we are talking about max guy's.
Even in a dry year for FA's , I dont see Morey overpaying for guy's like Boozer or a broken Amare. I suppose you have to trust that your teams GM isnt .... Isiah Thomas.

Many owners are looking to dump salary , having the ability to take on that salary can often net you very good pieces.

I see no reason to amnesty him in the final year - trade him before the final s season to a team seeking cap relief and they buy him out - You get an asset in return. That is pending he is in your plans for the coming year.

When you amnesty him , you pay him his full value - it just doesnt affect the cap. You have greater flexability by not using the amnesty clause in the case of Scola because his contract begs for a buyout because of its lack of a guarantee.

 

Yea, sorta exactly like Pau Gasol.