It's funny, I posted my opinion on the subject. I didn't denigrate anyone or slander anyone, yet I've been called a biggot and been some what attacked, because as I said,' if someone's opinion doesn't fall ino line with the gay agenda they are a homophobic bigot.' Those that call for freedom of expression get mighty teste when someone else's thoughts don't line up with theirs. You can't have it both ways...
being a biggot means treating people differently and giving them different rights based on who they are. You don't have to call someone names, or make fun of them to be a bigot. But when you want to deny one group of consenting adults the rights that another group of consenting adults has, that makes you bigoted. Add to that when you stereotype the group as women who like manly women, and men who like effeminate men. There are plenty of masculine gay couples, and feminine gay couples. There are men who act way more effeminate than even women do. It is a broad range. But that kind of stereotyping is also indicative of bigotry. Being a bigot doesn't mean you wish harm to come to a group, or that you'll use derisive language to describe them. That stuff can be a part of bigotry but it isn't the only indicator.
If they don't want to be called bigots, then they shouldn't oppose groups of consenting adults from having the same rights as other groups of consenting adults. If they do they are bigots. Nobody should apologize or feel bad for calling out bigotry. It's a bizarre form of Political Correctness that you are asking for. Anyone who wants only one group of consenting adults to have certain rights, and deny those rights to other groups (when allowing those rights doesn't cause harm) is a bigot. It's too bad that those bigots don't like being named what they actually are. We don't need to be all PC when dealing with anti-homosexual bigots. I hate political correctness especially in this case.
Should consenting adults then be allowed to have 7 wives? All consenting of course. Should consenting adults have a gay / bi multi wedding - say 2 men, 5 women? Mormon & Muslims would like the laws changed to suit their view on polygamous marriage. Your thoughts... Btw: a man when he has sex with another man, one of them obviously has to take the traditional women's role...without going into detail. That was what I meant by 'act like a woman'.
I would be fine if polygamy was legal. But it's a red herring. It's different because laws already allow certain groups of two consenting adults to get married, but don't allow other groups of two consenting adults to get married. That isn't the same as polygamy because there are no groups of polygamists that are allowed to be married, and other groups of polygamists being denied that right. If that was the case, it would certainly be bigoted.
My thoughts? In the immortal words of Ice Cube: "I think you don't know what the $%@ it is you're talking about."
Why do we even have the word "bigot" if it's all just a matter of opinion? Does that mean we don't need the word, and we can just cross it out of the dictionary? ....because this strikes me as a pretty clear example of bigotry. I mean, if it's not, then let's just get rid of the word altogether because if it's all "just opinion," and you're suggesting that just having an "opinion" automatically excludes you from bigotry ... well, then no one can ever be a bigot for any reason, ever. We've come a long way toward making the world a better place in a very short time! It used to be that there were bigots all over the place .... now, thanks to some word-wrangling, there can never be bigots ever again! It's all "just your opinion!"
I dont see how this video is any different than the 10 year olds that call neocon radio programs expressing conservative viewpoints. I mean, it's a nice video and I'm proud of the parents for instilling tolerance in their child, but it just seems eerily similar to what the 'other side' does all the time.
I dont understand where this argument is leading to....Let's say we legalize marriages betwen any group or arrangement of consenting adults. What's the harm?
I feel bad for IzakDavid13. I mean I have true empathy for him since he posted a picture of his daughter who is going through chemotherapy. I hope you and family find comfort knowing I am pulling for her. but the things you are saying in this thread make zero to little sense in the argument against gay marriage. I'm not going to call you a bigot, just uninformed and unenlightened. you said you stated your opinion on the matter and that it is your 1st amendment right. first of all- aren't you Austarlaian? second of all- what about the Constitutional Right for a loving couple to marry the person they love? what about their rights? third of all- you said you find it sad that a woman wants to marry a woman and a man wants to marry a man. regardless of "how they act", why do you think it is sad? they love and care for one another like you say you love and care for your wife and kids. like the child in the video explains, it is about love. it is not about sex. some frightened parents are worried their kids are going to learn about gay sex. why is this the thing you are fixated on? the child in the video eloquently describes a loving gay couple who have a daughter. he doesn't mention how the daughter was conceived or if she was adopted or not. in fact, it is irrelevant. do you think that when having a discussion about how two adults of the same gender love each other and want to spend their lives together, a young child will then ask, "but mommy where does the man put his penis when they are having sex?" your opinion is yours, but it makes no sense. if it religious based, I respect your right to your own opinion, but you should see DD's post above.
My daughter had her first chemotherapy treatment yesterday, and is doing well. Thank you. Mate, I don't hate anyone. I was just expressing My opinion. I guess we think a little differently down under on these issues.
Why do you care if more than 2 adults choose to form a family? It seems in certain situations it could be beneficial, for example, child care and pooling of financial resources. I am sincere in my curiosity. Is one gay male sexually really taking the woman's role? Some people believe anal sex is immoral between any two people. Could one argue that a heterosexual couple, where a woman is anally entered, is taking a traditional homosexual role?
i am aware of some of the social issues Australia faces such as the way they treat the Aborigines, but your views aren't different than many unenlightened Americans as well. but back to the question- why do you find it sad that a man wants to marry a man or two women want to marry each other. I dont think you hate anyone but I'm not so sure you understand people and their need to be given the same rights as anyone else. no one's shoving any agenda down your throat. my entire premise comes from a place on how we talk to our children about the matter. many parents are afraid that they will "teach about gay" in the schools. in my opinion, once gay marriage is accepted in america, the only thing they will teach in schools is that one day in the history of the country, marriage was once made legal for all consenting adult citizens. you don't need to bring up the polygamy argument because that's not what we are talking about. we are talking about two consenting adults. final question- what if your own daughter started asking the really really tough questions and started questioning her own sexuality, say around middle school, high school or college age? how would you feel if this were to happen? wouldn't you love her the same and wouldn't you think God would love her the same?
so why did you bring it up? unless they plan on getting married in their bedroom, this statement is irrelevant to the subject of same sex marriage. I'm still looking for clarification of what you mean here and understand why others would find this comment insulting, stereotyping, or bigoted. of course, I won't call you a bigot or anything or make insulting comments. perhaps you could explain better than just "it's my opinion"
