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Tyreke Evans being shopped by Sac.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by LCAhmed, Jun 13, 2012.

  1. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

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    The point is Reke as a rookie wasn't what he's cracked up to be. They were a garbage team and the last 1/3 of the season was dedicated to him achieving his infamous stat line that everyone remembers.

    I don't know anything about Tony Wroten, but maybe he'll actually improve after joining the NBA, unlike Reke, and he'll be very cheap for the next 4 years.
     
  2. jopatmc

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    If Charlotte wants to gamble down and still get their man, Beal, then the #5 and Evans for the #2 may be a play Sacramento can make and get Robinson.

    Then you have:

    1. Davis
    2. Robinson
    3. MKG (Wiz)
    4. Barnes (if the Cavs are really serious about wanting him there)
    5. Beal (Bobcats get Beal and a shot at seeing if Evans can be something)
     
  3. JayGoogle

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    Well most ROYs were on garbage teams...what's the point of condemning Reke for that? You seem to have something against this dude.

    As for that stat line yeah because when historical stats are on the line then yeah usually the whole team/organization chips in to help that player. This is nothing new. Oh and he still had to get the stats, you make it seem like they were just given to him and he had little to do with it.
     
  4. Francis3422

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    I would like Evans on this team. I like the offensive ability and I think you give the guy a shot out of Sacramento.

    Lowry for Evans would be fair IMO.
     
  5. theprof

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    Ditto.
     
  6. mr. 13 in 33

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    i'd rather take cousins then evans
     
  7. A_3PO

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    Sir, just get over it. I have my opinion of Reke so just suck it up and accept it. I watched that team quite a bit and after his sensationalized rookie season, he flatlined just as I expected.

    I'll say it about him many more times here whether you like it or not. Look for me in every thread about Reke.
     
  8. A_3PO

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    Is there any doubt by now?
     
  9. ironariza

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    tony wroten my choice
     
  10. JayGoogle

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    Well I have my opinion on him as well and am allowed to respond to your opinion of him.... Just asked if you had something against the dude. Saying 'He's on a garbage team...' though doesn't say much about his talent.

    Irving, Wall, Blake, Durant, pretty much every premier rookie is on a garbage team. So what? You think any other young player would go to Sacramento and single handedly turn that franchise around?
     
  11. meh

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    Okay, now I have to question whether or not you're BSing when you say you watch Evans play. Because last season's stats showed that Evans made ~30% of his jumpshots. Either you have a very selective memory, or you somehow believe that making 30% of your jumpshot is acceptable.
     
  12. Sooty

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    ummm he didn't say 30% is acceptable though? am I missing something?
     
  13. meh

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    Would make more sense if this board has quote-in-quote feature.
     
  14. A_3PO

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    This is getting a bit silly. This has nothing to do with turning the franchise around. You are generalizing, which is fine, but I'm basing my opinion on actual observation and the fact he's flatlined (at best) in 3 years. Still has no jumper, poor intelligence (whichever kind), selfish, poor floor vision, etc. Not a player I want the Rockets to get unless he comes for nearly free. I'd give up Bud + Marcus Morris.
     
  15. plutoblue11

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    From what I've seen, Evans is not a complete lost cause at all. He would work out really well for a really good team or a team with good system with veteran leadership and/or greater star players. He'd actually fit pretty well on a team, like Boston (especially if they lose Ray Allen), a team with a really good coach, or any team that has two or more go-to options equally as good or better than him.




    Quite honestly, I would take on Evans, simply for his salary and restricted free agency status (2013-14), as well. For what he does, he is not exactly overpaid or terribly expensive. I much rather have Evans (who hasn't quite reached his ceiling) and his ballhogging tendencies over Joe Johnson's ball-hogging tendencies, declining abilities, and monstrosity for contract. That's another positive that comes with Evans.

    Though, he's not necessarily a good fit for the Rockets, who are basically a more competitive version of the Kings with some structure, though quite good enough to get over-the-hill.
     
  16. roslolian

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    Its really easy to get stats in the NBA when your team decides you want to get that stat instead of winning. If every play is you ISO-ing and taking every shot or making every pass then you will score a lot of points and assists. What do you want the Rockets to do? Do you want them to win games or do you want them to pump up Tyreke's stats?

    Look at his percentages last year:
    FG 0.453%
    3 PT: 0.202%

    Compare that to Rajon Rondo (another notorious shooter):
    FG: 0.448%
    3 PT: 0.238%

    So he has less range than Rondo, but he has none of Rondo's amazing D, passing skills, vision and bball IQ. WTF are we gonna do with an SG who has poor BBAll IQ, doesn't defend and can't shoot straight?
     
  17. JayGoogle

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    Hey I've seen him play too.

    Having no jumper is not that big of a deal for a slasher that is 22 years old. Most of these guys come into the NBA with a lack of a jumper, that can change though.

    Basketball IQ., being selfish, these things can easily change given the right coach. Again, players are all more selfish on losing teams. The mentality of getting your own comes into play.

    Also it seems that people are forgetting what happened his 2nd season. He dealt with a nagging injury, plantar fasciitis. Which as Texan fans should know doesn't quite go away.

    Not only that but in his 3rd year his FG% went back up (which is probably due to not playing with a painful injury for half the season) since people love stats so much. Tyreke, the selfish ballhog still shot a better FG% than Courtney Lee. The only thing that's gone down is his PPG because like I've said, he's actually played less selfish this past season.

    Also how many ROYs actually go onto not succeed in the NBA? I'll let you just look at the list of past winners and see for yourself. Most have gone on to prove to be very good if not great players in the NBA. On that alone you take a shot at this guy. We are grading him on potential and rightfully so. He's 22 years old we're saying he may not be this great player right now but the guy has the athleticism and skill to become a all-star type of player.

    It seems everyone around here expects young players to all follow the same amount of growth...it just doesn't happen like that. Some guys need help to translate their game, some guys just get better and better and better, some guys look sucky for a while until the proverbial light goes off and they get it.
     
  18. A_3PO

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    Enjoy your pipe dream. I'll take a pass and stay in reality.
     
  19. JayGoogle

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    I want the Rockets to get him and tell him not to shoot threes.

    That's obviously not his strongsuit. You see if Rondo was on a poorly coached team he could have easily looked a lot worse than he is now. If Reke were on the Celtics he'd look a lot better. Doc would emphasize his strong points and hopefully Mchale would do the same.

    Also Rondo is a completely different player, being a PG playmaker type where Reke is a slashing/scoring type.

    It's funny you bring up FG% because Reke has a better FG% than all of the rockets backcourt players

    The crappy 3P% is not a issue because a good coach would make sure he shot as less of those as possible. Dude can become a more efficient player getting into the paint and finishing around the rim.
     
  20. JayGoogle

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    Dude you obviously really dislike this man for whatever reason.

    Still doesn't change the facts I just presented to you. Still doesn't change the fact he won ROY and way way more likely than not ROY winners go onto become very successful in their NBA career.

    Still doesn't change the fact that the Selfish ballhog Tyreke Evans shoots a better FG% than the players he'd be replacing.
     

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