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Foul or No Foul! That is the question.

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by IzakDavid13, Jun 15, 2012.

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Was it a Foul or Not a Foul

  1. Foul

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  2. Great D

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  3. David Stern

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  1. smr6

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    Should of been called because he straight up wrapped up his arm. If it was a bump or a slap I can see letting it go with that much time left, but when you hook his arm as he tries to drive it is straight up terrible to not call anything.
     
  2. ivenovember

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    No. That would be Dirk.
     
  3. JuanValdez

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    He got some contact on the ground, but in the end, Durant got a great look at the basket and missed. If he got the call, it'd be a bail-out superstar call. Which is not the sort of ticky-tack thing I want to see at the end of a Finals game.

    I wouldn't call it 'Great D' because Durant easily could have and should have made that shot. But, it wasn't a foul of much consequence.
     
  4. KingLeoric

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    It was a definitely a foul, but it wasn't that hard of a foul. I can understand the refs didn't whistle it at that game deciding moment.
     
  5. pippendagimp

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    lechoke is dumb, but not that dumb. the fact that he blatantly fouled durant multiple times in the same sequence (on his arm/chest/leg) with the risk of putting such a prolific FT shooter at the line to tie up the game - makes me think lechoke clearly knew the league was not going to let him lose this game.
     
  6. sammy

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    ^wah wah wah. It was a wire to wire win. The Thunder deserved to beat. Period.
     
  7. intergalactic

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    It was easier to see the foul when they showed it looking from halfcourt, rather than from the baseline. LBJ clearly grabbed his arm and then pushed his leg as well.

    However, there were many missed calls throughout the game in both directions. The main thing is that NBA officiating seems to be more and more intrusive on the games. They are handling the flops a bit better in this series (more no-calls), but there are too many charge calls which are either wrong or really just too close to call, and then those calls end up having a giant impact on the game . The players have figured out how valuable it is to draw an offensive foul, so they do so much acting it is ridiculous. Not only that, it makes the real fouls (like the one on Durant) look like nothing happened.
     
  8. BONIERO1576

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    Yeah, that call is never made in the waning seconds of a game and Durant actually got a pretty good look. He missed the shot more than the foul made him miss. I'm fine with that no call.
     
  9. heypartner

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    I agree. Last second plays for the tie or win in the Finals, I say no-call is the default call. Let them play.

    Durant had a look and he missed. I suppose pressure on his thigh might have caused the equivalent as short-arming does.
     
  10. Angkor Wat

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    Wen it comes down to the final moments, I rather let the players decide the game. Good no call. Fouls in moments like that really break up the flow of a game. It has to be really blatant, like pulling the player down or something.
     
  11. CDrex

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    Eh, not such a simple question. It was a foul by the NBA rulebook. It wasn't even close to being a foul in the unofficial Crunch Time Must Be Officiated Differently rulebook.

    Do I think the rules should be the rules regardless of what the clock says? Sure. But this play wasn't the time to blaze trails on that front. Not even Kobe would have gotten that call (although he sure as hell would have gone nuts about it).
     
  12. coolweather

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    FK U REFS! too soon?
     
  13. BONIERO1576

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    I have a question for the 90% percent of you that believe this was either a foul or David Stern (laughable). Name me the last time an important game was decided by putting the team that was down with less than 20 tics on the clock at the free throw line?

    It never happens. The refs let the players decide the game when it comes to that. It's why the only way to win a game like that is usually by nailing a long jumper.
     
  14. RiceRockets

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    If the situation was completely reversed I don't think Lebron gets the call either.
     
  15. Nelly

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    This.
     
  16. Coach AI

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    Looked like a foul, but in the final seconds of a finals game who knows what is going to get called. nba reffing is ****ty.

    To that point, Durant probably shouldn't have been on the floor after the no called Battier charge.

    Either way, a lot of factors in that game determined the outcome.
     
  17. The_Yoyo

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    to the ones that keep saying the charge on durant that wasnt called - the block/charge is one of the hardest calls to make since everything happens so fast and so many other factors come into play - was the guy there and not sliding? did he get there before the other play made his gather? is he outside the circle? --- I agree with JVG in that if its too close to call to give the benefit of the doubt to the offensive player since if you start calling almost everything a charge then player will not try to attack the rim as much since it is still a dangerous play (basically being undercut)

    for example in game 1 Wade drove in and Collison took what looked to be a legit charge, he was there, feet outside the circle and all but it was too close to call so it became a block (and an and1 for wade) so I dont necessarily think that saying Durant should have fouled out on the charge was a good "counter argument" had Durant done what Fisher did to steal the ball on Wade at the end there would have been a better reason IMO
     
  18. King1

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    It was clearly a foul but I don't have an issue with the no call in that situation. Anyone who voted great defense is an idiot
     
  19. Air Langhi

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    Not only that we would have the everyone saying lechoke, lebron choke's again, etc.
     
  20. SuperMarioBro

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    So does Durant... Hell, as a Rockets fan, you should remember how the refs "missed" what could have been a MAJOR double dribble no-call at the end of the Rockets @ OKC game this year.
     

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