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New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Hightop, May 31, 2012.

  1. ling ling

    ling ling Member

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    Libertarianism is about personal freedom and personal responsibilty.

    This law is stupid because it restricts freedom while accomplish nothing. You can always get 3-4 refills which this law allows.

    Why don't they ban buffets, 95% of the food, all drinks that is not water, salt, and fat people.

    E.g. If you are 120% over your ideal body weight or have high blood pressure, you are banned from x food, x drink, x activivity, etc... . Now this law would really accomplish something.
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Not in NY at least not for free. There are a very few restaurants in NY that offer free refills. It freaked me out when I first moved there, and saw the bill on soft drinks I had with my meal.
     
  3. thadeus

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    So, what does this mean to you? As far as I can tell, self-identified "libertarians" respond to these words like Pavlov's dog - they really like them, but don't seem to have a grown-up understanding of what they actually mean.

    Agreed. It's a stupid law that, likely, will not accomplish anything.

    Really ... this sounds far, far, far more nefarious than the law under discussion. It might accomplish something ... but damn.
     
  4. Kyrodis

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    You'll get no argument from me about the stupidity of the law. I just think many of you so-called libertarians are confusing libertarianism with individualist anarchism.

    Libertarianism is all about voluntary association. If you're going to support voluntary organization and government (particularly at the local level), you also have to give people the freedom to enact stupid laws if they feel like it.

    What about people like Sara Gochenauer (from the OP article) who support the ban? By saying governments on any level shouldn't be able to pass laws like this, you are taking away her freedom to live in a city with such an ordinance. You're also taking away Mayor Bloomberg and the NYC council's freedom to enact it.

    On the other hand, people who don't support the ban can voluntarily disassociate from the governmental entity that enacted it by voting their leaders out of power or maybe even leaving the city.

    Everyone has different views on what constitutes government "overreach." You may disagree if a group of people are inclined to live in a totalitarian collective in the middle of the desert, but as a libertarian, you should also defend their right do so.
     
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  5. Classic

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    Saw this and thought appropriate for the previous topic here. [health portions anyway]

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  6. JuanValdez

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    I'm no great lover of hfcs but I can't help but suspect that infographic is bending the truth a bit.
     

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