2009 - 1 perfect game 2010 - 2, should have been 3 2012 - 2 That's 5, S/B 6 in the span of 3.5 years. Before that, there had never been more than 2 in that short of a span. Before 2010, we never had 2 in the same season.
Please Tell me Happ will be cut..I am going to start to question management if they throw him out there again.
People weren't juicing until the 1970s & not wide spread until the 90s. We saw perfect games in 1998 & 1999 during the height of the so called steroid era, as well as 2004, 1994, 1991. 1900 - 1950 = 3 perfect games 1950s = 1 1960s = 3 1970s = 0 1980s = 3 1990s = 4 2000s = 2 2010s = 4 Perfect games seem to have little to do with Juicing. I think smaller parks are beneficial to perfect games (less ground for fielders to cover). Timmy K. on Mike & Mike this morning was saying that there have never been so many pitchers with this kind of stuff in the past.
I was referring more to overall scoring. Offense has fallen off a cliff, to the point where fans are freaking out over base hits.
when i checked this morning and saw all the replies! (all six pages!!!) I knew that either there was an epic comeback or cain pitched a perfect game/ no hitter. what is getting lost in all this is why the F is happ still going out there to throw batting practice. I'd rather see jordan or a single A guy ( how worse can he do?)
Actually Max what he said was pretty tame compared to the joking they are making up here - it's been pretty brutal. And to be fair, it was ESPN that started the whole "Does it count because it was against the Astros" thing. You had to have expected this stuff given their recent history.
While Happ has been bad, every starter we have not named Wandy has been bad also. http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/teams/...s/regularseason/PIT-BASIC/yearly?&_1:col_1=14 You could even make a case that Lyles has been worse. Meanwhile, our #2 and #3 guys have an ERA approaching 5.00 (Norris 4.81, Harrell 4.83). Not really so much better than Happ 5.33, and Lyles 5.40.
Come on man, you have to be able to laugh at your own team sometimes. You should have seen the epic MS Paint threads that popped up during Texas' 5-7 season in 2010.
Cain may be emerging as an elite pitcher. He's having a fantastic year and he was an ace-level pitcher last year as well. However, Greinke has historically been better over the last 5 years by every measure except ERA, and ERA is notoriously unreliable, especially when you're comparing guys pitching in different leagues, one of them in a pitcher's park in the NL, and another in a neutral park in the AL for several of those years. Cain benefits a lot from the level of competition he faces and from his ballpark.
I have no problem laughing at myself or whatever else. But the notion that Cain didn't really accomplish anything last night is being said around the country last night....which ignores the fact that this isn't the 2011 Astros and Cain was absolutely amazing last night.
Those comments that Cain didn't accomplish anything were mostly said in jest. His command was sick last night.
Over the last 3 years, Cain leads Greinke in ERA, ERA+, WAR, & WHIP. ERA+ discounts the park differences. If you pull out Greinke's 2009, which is vastly better than any other season of his career, it isn't even close who the better pitcher is by any measure other than strikeouts.
Picking the last three years is a skewed sample since Cain only started getting THIS good last year, and Greinke missed a decent chunk of last season with injury. Also, if you take out Greinke's 2010 ERA it would shift things just as much in the other direction.
