I think they filmed it this way and just want you to think it's cool and not try to think too hard about its direct correlation to Alien.
So did I get this right? A Spoiler Xenomorph Cookbook? Spoiler Human ingests black goo --> begin transformation into Linda Blaire Exorcist alien. Linda Blaire exorcist alien fills human with demon seed Human makes Squid chest burster from demon seed load Squid chest burster grows inexplicably and snacks on Engineer Engineer spawns Xenomorph chest burster Definitely going to need to see it again to fill in more holes. Can't wait for the sequel!
Spoiler Ok, here's how I think it all connects. First, the assumption is that the opening scene was on Earth, back possibly MILLIONS of years in the past, it is not specified however. The planet looked completely barren of life, at least that's how I remember it. I do not recall seeing anything but rocks and water, I don't remember seeing any plant life. (if there was already life on the planet, then I will have to alter this theory a bit obviously). So, at the beginning, one of the 'Engineer' aliens is left behind on the planet. he wears robes of what look like some sort of religious type. The ship which leaves is large and smooth, not twisted and ungainly like the latter ships. The alien ingests some sort of compound which seems to almost instantly annihilate his body, breaks it down into base components, and we see the DNA of the Engineer spread and presumably grow into life on Earth. The question which is un-answered is, did the engineer do this knowingly, willingly, or was it a big surprise to him? He certainly did not act pleased when it was happening. Well, doesn't really matter much I suppose. So it SEEMS to me to be saying that this was some sort of 'terraforming' project, that Earth was ripe for 'seeding' life, it had water and atmosphere, all it needed then was the DNA to get the ball rolling. (If there was already life on the planet, then the implication would be that they were not just seeding generic 'life', but were specifically seeding their own human-based DNA. I do not know which is closer to the truth yet) The first thing to take from this is, either way, this had to have happened MILLIONS of years in the past. Which means that the original set of aliens who did the seeding and the ones in Prometheus were separated by millions of years (remember, the carbon testing on the alien head determined that it had only been dead a couple thousand years, which is a pittance in the grand scheme of things). Even though they looked the same (which is unlikely in itself if you think about it), there is pretty much zero chance that they shared the same agendas or philosophies. So anyway, presumably we are then to believe that our origins as humans are attributable to these aliens from millions of years ago. They MUST have returned at several points, to check up on fledgling humans, or to check up on how their terraforming was going, whatever the case may be. We know this because of the cave drawings and carvings from all over the world, and centuries apart. The claim that the drawings were fostered deliberately by the aliens as a way to communicate how to 'find them some day' could possibly be true. But that then implies either a conflict among the aliens, or some serious change of outlook. Because the cave drawings all point to the moon where the engineer installation was located. And that ended up being a facility for development of, and/or storage of horrific biological weapons. So, let's lay it out: Millions of years ago, some version of the Engineers seeded either all life on earth, or at least seeded human beings on earth. I will call these the 'Good Guys' engineers. They return to earth periodically to check up on their humans, and leave little clues to help find them when we become advanced enough. And the clues lead to a very specific location. My theory is, something happened to the Engineer race, most likely war. And the 'Good Guy' Engineers lost the war, several thousand years ago. So, as part of that changing landscape, the place which may have at one time been the home of the Good Guy Engineers, over time became barren and was then subsequently used as a safe, out-of-the-way location for them 'Bad Guy' Engineers to develop and store their weapons and weapon-delivery-system - aka the horseshoe-shaped ships. So the Good Guys lost to the Bad Guys. And the Bad Guys used these horrific biological weapons to wipe out the Good Guys, and possibly other races as well, that is unknown. The theory next leads to the Bad Guys trying to track down all the planets which had been 'seeded' by the Good Guys back in the past. (this could also be the primary reason for the existence of the biological weapons, rather than warfare amongst themselves). So, the idea would be, thousands of years ago, the Bad Guys were on schedule to dump a load of the substance on Earth which would wipe out the young humans, but perhaps then leave the planet safe for colonization, something along those lines. But from the looks of the holograms, something went terribly wrong at the installation and wiped out the Bad Guys before they could launch their mission. This could have been like Chernobyl to the alien race, and they never went near the place again. That would explain the condition of the installation, and its total abandonment. And of course, thousands of years pass, human beings finally become advanced enough to uncover the now-obsolete clues, and travel across space to the location, only to unwittingly stumble across the most dangerous place in the galaxy. ..and then the rest of the movie happens. That's my knee-jerk theory anyway. Of course none of that addresses the actual question of the movie: why did you decide to destroy us after creating us? What did we do wrong? Why do you hate us? It is entirely likely that the ones doing the destroying have nothing in common with the ones who did the creating. So, as David said, the question is irrelevant. Which is frankly just a part of the overall bleak tone, at least in my view. Just depressing as heck. However, I do want to ask about one part of the movie, a part which seemed particularly silly and just plain stupid: those two weirdo scientists who ran off and got separated from the group at the beginning. First of all, that would have never happened. Second of all, the dude with the scanners, and the scanner readout on his ARM, would not have gotten lost, even if he WAS allowed to just wander off in a unknown installation ON AN ALIEN WORLD. Second of all, there is no way those two would have ended up in the very room that was filed with the slime-spewing containers, and just decided to camp there. Stupid. AND, they then see something ALIVE, which should have sent alarm bells and screaming and running in the other direction, because the place was supposed to be completely devoid of life.. and this colossal idiot just acts like he just found a new species of butterfly on Earth, and thinks it will be fun and cute to try to TOUCH the freaking thing. Shaking my head. There is no way that should have ever been in the script. It was only there to give us some scares and to show that there was danger. Dumb dumb dumb. But ok. But THEN, after these two d-bags buy the farm, one of them shows up suddenly at the door of the ship, all twisted into some kind of Lovecraftian pretzel, and they just open the door and let him in, so he can start going all HULK on everyone and trying to trash the place. Umm.. WHY? Completely unexplained. And totally random. It's little things like that which I didn't like, because they simply either made no sense or actually made *negative* sense - in other words, not only no sense, but actually directly the opposite of what WOULD have made sense. Oh well, enough of that. Back to the movie, and how it ties to Alien. The Bad Guys obviously had more of the horseshoe ships, probably all over the galaxy. The Bad Guys also had a lot of trouble keeping control of their biological weapon creatures. I believe this movies toes to Alien simply by showing us the horseshoe ships, the general PURPOSE of their cargo, and the fact that the cargo had a tendency to get out of control. So the planet in Prometheus has no need to be the same planet in Alien for it to be a direct sequel. It simply needs to tell us what we were really seeing in Alien: A different horseshoe ship was flying somewhere when the cargo go hold of the crew. The 'Space Jockey', infected himself, managed to crash the ship on a barren planet and then set some kind of warning beacon, telling everyone of his race to stay away, and then he was killed when the egg inside him hatched. Then the Nostromo came along, once again found a clue not meant for humans, and blundered into an insanely dangerous place, just like in Prometheus. So that's how it all fits, at least seems to be so to me. What say y'all?
****. I'm so overwhelmingly disappointed. **** that hack Lindelof and the idiot at FOX that recommended him to Ridley. Visual the movie was stunning. The movie felt like it was 1 hr 30mins long. The only is the sequel to Prometheus and but that sequel should have majorly been that Prequel. There are many shots missing that I saw in the trailer that's not in the movie so I hope the Director's Cut will at least enhance the movie a bit more. Will discuss more on it later but right now I'm so damn disappointed of what could have been a great movie if someone else instead of the amateurish Lindelof who wrote this turd.
Looks like it will be getting a sequel after all. I need that sequel to wash this disappointment from my mind and NO to Lindelof. Bishop: "Not bad for a R-Rated Prequel". PROMETHEUS Looks Set To Dominate The Weekend With $68 Million
Lindelof has just been tapped to save Brad Pitts zombiepocalypse World War Z by rewriting a new the third act.
So some of the reviews talk about how this movie "didn't answer all of the questions" from Alien, but did answer some. What questions are there from Alien? Was that movie a cliffhanger and I just didn't realize it?
Told you guys you would be disappointed. Very underwhelming and Way over-hyped by nerds like Cowboy_Besop(unnecessary jaws music and random crying from nowhere) ....probably the last hurrah from Ridley Scott.
Agree: this seems explicit. But, perhaps, worlds collide with Blade Runner? Spoiler Maybe she didn't know who, or what, she was? The intensity of the scenes she had with Fassbender-bot were strangely intense. And, after all, in the universe of the film, it's pretty clear we're all bastards, never knowing our true parents.
Spoiler The captain assumed that the medical pod was for Vickers but when Shaw starts jacking with it, the pod says that it was made for a man, not a woman. I think Vickers is an android and the med pod was for Weyland.
I got it, in 2D non-beast mode. In the trailer: there was a shot of a cotton plant, then blood, arterial spray, spurting across it. It captured the murderous idiocy of the South, in 0.3 seconds, and was a purely Tarantino invention. It was beautiful. Ear-to-ear smile, on me, in anticipation.
Spoiler Vickers wasn't an android if she was she wouldn't have incorrectly stated they were 500 billion miles from earth (not even out of our solar system). They were 32 light years away -- trillions upon trillions of miles -- an android wouldn't make that mistake.
Both good points. Spoiler Would be entirely plausible to think Weyland created Vickers as a daughter figure to replace him as head of the corporation when he dies. So when he tried to cheat death, it conflicted with her sole purpose. Obviously she didn't want the mission to succeed, in the sense that they find life out there. Spoiler Didn't even register that the opening shot would have been millions of years in the past, so that definitely could have been what happened. I definitely felt similarities to Mass Effect and the Reapers or the Halo universe and the Forerunners and Covenant. Could the Engineers be trying to cleanse the universe of intelligent life when it becomes too advanced, only to start over again? Or could the original Engineers be a completely different race, using their technology for far more peaceful purposes than the present day ones? The cave drawings/map could have directed humans to a nexus of sorts (much like in Contact), where we could meet them. But of course over the millions of years from when life was first created on Earth, or even in just the tens of thousands of years from the date of the drawings, something happened and the planet turned into the military installation the team stumbled upon. Definitely agree those two guys who left should not have gotten lost. I fully expected them to be back on the ship, but there they were, still stuck in the installation. And the one who you'd least expect to go poking an unknown life form, the biologist, is the one that does just that. Would make far more sense that they try to find their way out and camp at the entrance until the rescue team comes. But even worse, how could they have gone in circles if the ship is a horseshoe? You can only so far in one direction. I think the thing that bothered me the most was the whole infected Holloway impregnating Shaw, aborting the fetus and no one stopping or seeing her thing. It was an incredibly dramatic and jaw-dropping chain of events, that unfortunately didn't make a whole lot of sense. I think the story is really a case of the whole being greater than the sum of its parts. I'm not gonna fault the film at all for hitting some road bumps in its mission to explore some deeply philosophical and spiritual themes. And it's refreshing to see a movie that makes you think for a change.
So disappointing to hear what's happening with this film. The story didn't need a lot of tampering. Should of just stuck to what made it a huge success in the first place. Or better yet, a network should have picked it up and turned it into a miniseries rather than a 2 hr movie.
Well here goes spoiler time. If you haven't seen Alien or Aliens don't watch it first. Watch this first and you might enjoy it even more. It's not that I didn't enjoy it because it's not exact Alien but it was so badly told with so many thing left unanswered. I mean the final shot left me cringing because it seems like a rush design/CGI job. If the design/CGI did their job than I wouldn't be kinda pissed about that shot. I also thought the music was just overwhelming at time. Most of the time the music was so out of place and weren't needed. Fassebender was great as usual but the editing seems to be rushed. I just hope this is like the theater release similar to Kingdom Of Heaven because KOH DC is almost a masterpiece IMO and I hope the Director's Cut will at least make Prometheus more bearable. Spoiler The Engineers(Space Jockey) left more questions than answers. Who and what are they? We know for sure they are very an intellect specie but do they lack human behaviour or humanity? I'm basing this on how suddenly they act aggressive all of a sudden. I can only come up with two conclusions. 1. They are a specie that are programmed to create and destroy life form of any kind. I mean if they were super intelligent wouldn't they first try to act nicely and trick the human into leading them back to their world and destroy them then? So what's stopping them from doing so if they have been doing for so long? I mean if they are a specie that are program without human conditional behaviour such as morality or knowing right or wrong than I can understand they are nothing but a drone but were created by another higher being than themselves to create and destroy life without needing to know about right or wrong. So is pretty much based on Stephen Hawking theory about that some species out there are hostile. 2. Maybe they know and saw the future about us human and what would become of us so maybe that's why they were in such a hurry wanting to destroy us without an explanation? Another thing is that what happen to these Engineers? What kill them? Did their biological weapon they created turn on them? Were their destination to Earth been postpone by this? Why would human post such a thread to such specie as the Engineer? I mean if the fossil of the dead Engineer is 1000 yrs old it would mean they would be heading to Earth around 1000 AD. But if the is Answer # 1 than it would make it easier to follow and understand the intention of Prometheus. I mean if it's not ANSWER #2 than there are so many plot holes and contradicting so many things.
Exact score I told my gf walking out. Lol. Either way, I found this movie real enjoyable but could have been better.
Spoiler No. She's just a bitter human daughter that saw she wasn't good enough for Weyland and was totally jealous of how David has become his love and obsession of a son that he probably always wanted.
