Seriously, what has Obama accomplished? Absolutely nothing.

so, W is one of the most accomplished presidents ever- look how many countries he invaded!

 

He reformed student aid. You define that as an accomplishment? srsly? You don't even mention what the change is or whether it has helped. Unreal

I define accomplishments as having 'good' results not 'ill'. My definition may be wrong though.

 

Military and National Security

1. BROAD POLICY:
2. Began restructuring the military to reflect present day threats and technology. ref
3. Recommitted the U.S. to a policy of “no torture” and full compliance with the Geneva Conventions. ref
4. All service people receive education in a region’s culture and language before deployment there (a soldier said this on Maddow).
5. Supported the Repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell (DADT). ref, ref
6. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date. ref
7. Established new cyber security office. ref, ref
8. Defense Production Act Reauthorization of 2009. ref
9. Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act. ref
10. Nuclear Forensics and Attribution Act. ref

11. FUNDING:
12. Cut the missile defense program by $1.4 billion in 2010. ref
13. Eliminated F-22 fighter jet program after lobbying Senate vote to strip financing for more jets from a defense funding authorization bill. ref, ref, ref
14. Canceled contract for new Presidential helicopter fleet (28 helicopters, $11.2 billion). ref
15. $1.1 Billion for improving airport security. ref
16. Increased pay and benefits for military personnel. ref

17. BY REGION/THEATER:
18. AF Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan. ref, ref
19. AF Set troop pullout in Afghanistan to begin in summer 2011. ref, ref
20. AF Established Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing, prioritizes aid
21. AF infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices. ref
22. AF Ordered military to withdraw fast food establishments from Afghan bases. ref
23. IQ Ended combat mission (remaining personnel are nonaggressive) 8/18/10
24. SOM Increased US Navy patrols off Somali coast. ref
25. SOM Ordered SEAL operation that resulted in killing of three terrorists and the release of US captain held by Somali pirates. ref
26. Closed secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere. ref, ref
27. Opened door to space arms treaty. ref, ref
28. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks, building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols. ref
29. Executive Order Optimizing the Security of Biological Select Agents and Toxins in the US. ref
30. Caught more Taliban Leaders in one month than Bush/Cheney did in six years. ref
31. Negotiated nuclear arms agreements with Australia (5/5/2010), India (5/4/2010), and Russia (5/10/2010). ref, ref, ref, ref
32. New START treaty and protocol with Medvedev. ref
33. Section curators: ^arrghPaine

 

that would be a very short list.

 

No actually it would be pretty extensive. The only problem is that they would be mostly progressive policies.

 

Well if results don't matter (a la the mark and rashmon lists) then I can do it

as Massachusetts Governor:

1. passed some bill
2. passed another bill
3. passed a third bill
4. took a dump
....

 

Romney did set up a pretty good health care system in Massachusetts that was very similar to what Obama accomplished on a nationwide level.

 

Texxx:

On your point about Obama deserving no credit for killing Bin Laden....

Well Abu Yahya al-Libi was just killed, he was the most important living Al Qaeda leader.....

He was killed by a drone....

 

gitchy, gitchy Abu Yahya!

 

http://www.theonion.com/articles/eighty-percent-of-alqaeda-no-2s-now-dead,5159/

Eighty Percent Of Al-Qaeda No. 2s Now Dead

FEBRUARY 1, 2006

WASHINGTON, DC

The Pentagon announced Monday that 80 percent of Osama bin Laden's seconds-in-command have been eliminated. "Nearly 1,600 al-Qaeda leaders ranked number two have been wiped out," Lt. Col. Mark Allison said. "That leaves only 400 of Osama bin Laden's right-hand men in the organization." Following the apparent failure to kill bin Laden's No. 2 man Ayman al-Zawahri in a missile strike on a Pakistani border town on Jan. 13, American forces intensified the search for al-Qaeda second-in-command Ahmed Al-Zahnami, or, failing that, No. 2 man Amman al-Zaharani, or No. 2 man Ahmed al-Zafarani.

 

Obama gets no credit unless he went there and pulled the trigger himself.

He gets no credit for making it a priority to get him from the start of his admin. He gets no credit for basically invading Pakistan to get him, something he was criticized for by republicans. He gets no credit for changing the mission details to add more more helicopter. And he gets no credit for going against his advisors recommendations - including from the Pentagon to actually do the raid.

Ridiculous. Mitt Romney would make the same call? Mitt Romney wouldn't even have had the chance to for the same reason Bush didn't.

 

I think Bush accomplished a lot in his presidency as well. He took us in a radically new direction in our relationship with the Islamic world that has had and will continue to have a monumental impact on the future of our country. Some results will be good and some bad, and historians centuries from now will still be talking about what Bush did and whether it was wise.

As a student of history, I find the idea that we can make a list right now of things Obama did that had a postive effect and not debate it to irrelevance to be laughable. We don't agree now on whether the accomplishments of Ronald Reagan were really accomplishments and if they were really his in any case. And, we're supposed to do that with a president still in office? It's a joke.

What you can do is look at legislation he signed and administrative actions he took and see that he really has put his stamp on the country and has made fundamental changes to how this country operates. He's done stuff. We will see -- and argue about -- whether that was good or bad, on balance.

 

OMFG INFLATION IS SOARING!!!!




Oh wait, let's look at the historical trend back to 1990:



Cowardly way of printing money? Have you even seen Europe lately? Austerity isn't exactly the flavor of the month, maybe the ruined careers of many politicians.

 

So you are basically saying that an accomplishment for a President is "America's Youth Being More Educated", yet you have no way of measuring it.

Please run for Congress immediately. You would fit right in.

:grin:

 

Gitchy gitchy yahya...be dead! :grin:

 

Thread recap:

1. OP complains that Obama has not accomplished anything.
2. Posters post extensive lists of achievements accomplished from Obama as President.
3. other posters whine that the lists of accomplishments aren't really fair.

 

We do have a way. test scores.

 

Thread recap:

Legit complaint
liberal circle jerk

 

I could post Obama cures cancer and knuckleheads like Dr. T would whine "but what about diabetes?"