Hamburg warzone: 700 arrested as leftists clash with neo-Nazis

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I think it's just a bunch of Techno Vikings waiting for the next street festival. The Goebbelses of today are reviewing ad budgets, Goering's writing pitchbooks and Rommel's launching SAP builds.

 

Just a bunch of idiots on both sides. It's a shame that the police has to deal with this. Should just put the idiot extremists from the right and left into an arena and deal with each other until nobody is left.

 

Seems like a pretty dumb idea.

Call me ignorant if you want -- and I know you don't fight fire with fire -- but I actually don't mind people beating up neo-Nazis. I have no sympathy whatsoever for them.

Setting stuff on fire and destroying random people's property is obviously going too far though, no matter what kind of ideology you have.

 

Fascism (and Nazism) would be on the far-left side of the political spectrum not the right. Your article seems to suggest otherwise. This is a common mistake by lefties. Anarchy would be far-right.

 

Wow, you are 100% wrong. Everything you said is the exact opposite of reality. Nazis and Fascists consider themselves politically syncretic, but most of their views are traditionally far right . National Socialism isn't the same as Socialism.

 

Nope. The right side of the spectrum promotes individual freedom (Conservativism/Libertarinism/Anarchy). Fascism does not promote individual freedom and insists on controlling production. Fascism is very similar to Communism in governance. There is a reason Hitler was loved by Communists (before he attacked them). Mussolini was loved by the Communists too.

 

I happen to be reading heaps of German history, and all sources identify the Nazis as "the far right." Mussolini defined fascism as "corporatism," actually. One of the (many) things that the right wing in America was constantly praising about the Nazi regime (before we went to war anyway) was their crushing of socialist and communist elements of opposition, and their absolute boot heel on the necks of the common worker. They imposed absolute pay caps and eliminated concepts like overtime -- they created a government-assisted capitalist dreamscape. Which is why a lot of wealthy Americans loved doing business with them... at first.

So we can go with sixty+ years of factual review and in-depth scholarship,... or your internet post (and those of your Glenn Beck friends who are desperately trying to hide the truth of the past for their own political gain.)

That's my last reply on the topic to you/Glenn Beck. Maybe you should enroll in one of Glenn's "universities" since you enjoy alternate realities.

 

Are you even vaguely familiar with individual freedom? You managed to prove yourself wrong in your post (and make my case). Thank you.

 

How is it a capitalist dreamscape if overtime is eliminated?

 

Anarchy would be no government control

 

You seem to have made the common mistake of thinking that the spectrum is linear as opposed to multidimensional.



You can be leftist and pro or anti-government, or you can lean right and be pro or anti-government. Examples of the right side not promoting individual freedom include limitations of rights for gays, attempts at prohibition, drug policy, etc. On the Christian right you have multiple attempts to prohibit various "sins" or otherwise pass morality laws that restrict individual freedom.

 

You do realize that the political spectrum is not left to right... right?

 

I thought Germany banned Nazi groups?

 

I disagree about the spectrum being two dimensional. Either way your chart is obviously wrong since it has fascism on the far-right in both the x-axis and y-axis. B-Bob already showed this to be incorrect as fascism doesn't promote individual freedom. Pretending that a form of governance where the government takes total control of production is somehow associated with the right is just stupid.

Hey look I found a chart....... how meaningless

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You are hilariously wrong. Modern anarchism (libertarian socialism, anarcho-syndicalism, socialist federalism, whatever) originated as a radical leftist movement and continues to be a leftist movement. Hell, even your Great Satan Marx thought that communism was just a way to usher in an anarchistic society.

Fascism and totalitarianism have more in common with Louis XIV than Bakunin or Proudhon.