Didn't know whether to put this in the draft thread or here. Washington is sitting on the #3 pick in the draft. They have made it known they want to get rid of Blatche and Rashard. What would be the trade value of that package? What could they get out of it? Just a couple ideas I'm wondering about. Would they take Pau, McRoberts, Eyenga for Rashard, Blatche, #3?? Would the Lakers do it??? Would Washington be more interested in a Kevin Martin, Scola, Dally deal for the same package??? What are your thoughts on what it would take to pull that #3 pick away from Washington?
No way man. Only receiving the #3 pick is not enough for having to owe Andray Blatche Fool $23Mil over the next 3 years. Not even Popovich, who just brought on Stephen Jackson (who wasn't playing at all for the Bucks), Boris Diaw, and Boris Diaw's breasts, would take on Blatche. Bradley Beal isn't worth that type of punishment to your team.
Blatch is a cancer, but that's still an enticing trade. How much cap space would that free up for summer 2013?
Nobody in the league will take on Blatche. Nor should the Rockets. Also: <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Ted Leonsis on missing out on Anthony Davis: “This fortunately is a deep draft. We won’t be trading the third pick in the draft.” <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%2523wizards">#wizards</a></p>— Michael Lee (@MrMichaelLee) <a href="https://twitter.com/MrMichaelLee/status/208027515732766720" data-datetime="2012-05-31T02:49:59+00:00">May 31, 2012</a></blockquote> <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Expiring next year. Partial guarantee (still like $10-13M I think) for the upcoming year.
No additonal cap space whatsoever. Less if you consider that Scola cam be amnestied if needed and Blatche cannot.
See, if I understand correctly, Lewis can be bought out for $13 million next season. That could be huge for some team wanting to dump salary. Lakers could take a flyer on Blatche by having Kobe bash his head in when he acts like a screwhead, they get the #3 pick, either Beal or MKG or possibly using the 3 to get 6 and 11 and getting a PG and a PF or SF combination. All sorts of possibilities there. Not to mention the possibility of flipping Bynum, #3 and Lewis for Dwight. On the other hand, how much does Washington value that #3 pick???? I don't know. And how much would Orlando value getting that #3 pick along with Rashard's massive expiring in a deal for Dwight???? I would think they would love that deal, getting them under the cap for 2012/13 by some $10-$13 million, and getting a top pick to go along with it.
I think you gotta keep it in context. For instance, no one in the league would take on Blatche is correct if it is just Blatche by himself. But what if it means getting both Dwight and Deron?? Now the equation changes somewhat. If you had to take on Blatche to get Dwight and Deron signed and committed for 5 years, would you do it???? I bet most teams in the league would. And same thing goes for Leonsis. You can say you wouldn't trade the pick. But what if you could get Pau to team with Nene, Wall, and the rest of their youngsters??? That's pretty tempting. And I'd think a top 10 shooting guard (Martin) and one of the best post-up players in the NBA (Scola) along with the opportunity to dump both Blatche's and Rashard's unproductive deals would interest Leonsis too. But I could be waaaaaay off.
The Wizards ARE STUCK with Lewis and Blatche, as far as trades. Though, I would say for Blatche, he might improve his production and be a little more reserved on a veteran team. I don't think they've amnestied anyone, yet. So, they could amnesty Rashard Lewis and the salary cap falls to $35 MM (but he expires, next season, anyway) with Blatche it's alot lower, but the long term deal is erased.
Yeah, sure, I guess in theory you would. But I also think you'd try to avoid trading for Blatche as hard as you can. His contract is just so bad, you'll have a hard time building a team around Dwight and Deron, as you basically have to deal with a $50-511M cap for the next three years. Blatche is just a terrible guy to trade for. He's everything you don't want. Bad player. Cancer. Overpaid. I honestly don't think the Wizard should trade away value to get rid of him. He has too much negative value. It's not worth it. It's not my money, but I think they're just way better off just keeping their assets & amnestying Blatche. If they did trade him I think you'd have to be a rebuilding team that's at least 2 or 3 years away from doing anything to take him on. Just my opinion, though.
It's a nice scenario, but no one is taking Lewis unless he gets amnestied with that monstrosity for a contract. There's no reason to take on that contract. Blatche's contract is a little more realistic to take on, but the personality behind the contract is the monstrosity. $19 MM for Gasol $13 MM for Nene (over the next 4 seasons) Both players are somewhat declining and will be in their mid-30s at end of their contracts. Most of all, I doubt they catapult the Wizards beyond 1st or 2nd round, sort of like Indiana or Philly. Neither player has any kind of fan appeal, you might as well take your risk with a younger, though riskier player who could have star potential and you can add to a very young and upcoming team that has very flexible salary cap.
Why do you keep pumping up top 10 sg like that mean something? Martin was traded for a 2nd rd bench player. Martin led teams in sacramento were garbage. Martin led teams in houston haven't made the playoffs. Scola is solid, no doubt, but he's on a downward spiral. Blatche may be a cancer, but he's young and make 7m per. Its easy finding a taker for a guy his age and skillset. That's 2, 3m dollar players. So once again, you're way off as usual.
He may or may not be "way off" about Blatche, but his opinion agrees with that the reports of the Washington Post's Wizards beat writer, Michael Lee: His contract are actually for $7.2 million, $7.8 million, and $8.4 million for the next 3 years. At this point, I doubt many people still view him as having a high probability for success in the league after 7 years in the NBA and repeated screw-ups on and off the field. He has a chance, but few teams are going to jeopardize their cap situation to the tune of the above $ amounts for 3 years in order to find out whether he can turn his career around, not without a large sweetner, at least. Remember, a team that trades for him CANNOT even amnesty him. On the other hand, the Wizards still have their amnesty option. So, his contract is not a onerous for the Wizards as it is for another team. The natural consequence of this, as Michael Lee suggests, is that Blatche will be amnestied.
So, if they don't trade and amnesty Blatche, that is $21 million in the trash can, plus another $13.7 million in the trash can when they buy out Lewis. That's $34 total just thrown in the trash with no value gained besides you got your 3rd slot pick on the roster. So, you throw that away and pay two other players to take up space on your roster, non-difference makers in all likelihood...because you gotta maintain right at $46 million (80%) for next season, so you gotta go out and sign other guys just to get to league minimum salary or have a full roster and not play short-handed every night. That's a high price to pay for a 3rd overall pick. Now, turn all that around by trading the pick with the dead weight salaries. First of all, if you do the Martin/Scola/Dally deal, you get to cut Dally and still save $$$$. Martin is an expiring so him and Lewis are a wash. Now, think about flipping Martin to Minnesota for Derrick Williams and another expiring. You've replaced your #3 pick with a #2 pick. And you got to dump Blatche. And with Wall, Crawford, Nene, Scola, Singleton/Vesely they are likely a playoff seed and get the extra $$$ for making the playoffs. You can walk through the same mechanics with Pau intead of our guys.
Wizards aren't trading the #3 pick. They have a chance to draft an impact player, which exactly what they want. It would be insane for them to trade the pick for the sake of dumping salary and/or taking back oldsters.
1. They don't have to spend extra money to make minimum pay roll. Lewis' $13.7 million buyout amount counts against the cap. They now have $58 million guaranteed. Minus the $9 million or so saved on Lewis and assuming Blatche's $7.2 million is amnested, we are talking roughly $42 million guaranteed. Add the $4 million paid to the 3rd pick, we are at $46 million, the minimum required salary. 2. Pretty sure Houston would not do the deal. Besides giving up Scola and Martin (not elite players, but useful to have around and can be traded elsewhere for, say, a late teens pick or what not-- moreover, you can amnesty these guys and you can't do it with Blatche), you end up killing your cap flexibility for years for that 3rd overall pick. Remember, it's not the $ paid that counts, but what it does to your ability to make moves. It took the Rockets a couple years after Yao's injury/retirement to position themselves cap-wise to do things. Not sure they are giving up flexibility for the next 3 years for a pick, even if it's a good one. In any case, given the depth of this draft, I am not sure the Rockets wouldn't be better off trying to find a mid-lotto pick (6th-10th) at a cheaper price. 3, Bottomline: When you have the amnesty option still, when it comes to bad contracts signed before the lockout, they are worse after a trade than they are for the team that signed them. So, what Washington would pay to get rid of one of them should be less than what Houston, or another team, would accept to take one of them. 4. For the Lakers, I am not sure they want to take Kobe's final years to develop some 19 year old (who, btw, may not work out). The Lakers need some youth, but a younger veteran (like Lowry or Iguodala, who can help in Kobe's final years and still contribute during Bynum's prime) are probably what they'd look for instead of a draft pick.
