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Keep Lowry, Let Dragic go and draft a young PG as backup

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tigernet, May 26, 2012.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    They are NOT similar at all.

    Dragic is bigger, faster, a better passer, quicker, can beat his man off the dribble, and moves his feet laterally fast enough to piss off Westbrook.

    Dragic has a lot more going for him than Lowry - Kyle is a good PG, so is Goran, but only Goran could be a GREAT one....

    He is a 5 tool player, Lowry will always be a good hustle/competitive type of player and nothing more.

    Guys like Lowry struggle in the playoffs as other more athletic players start to hustle as much as them......

    Lowry outhustles guys during the regular season.....

    Give me Dragic 100 out of 100 times.

    DD
     
  2. Rox>Mavs

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    First off DD, I agree with you on Goran being the better choice between him and Lowry. I'm confused by this post and other posts you have though. This post it sounds like you'd support DM re-signing Goran (at what ever price it takes if I remember your other posts correctly). If DM does that however, it also sounds like you'd support him trading high on Lowry. Yet in another thread it sounds like you'd disapprove of DM trying to trade Lowry for as much value as he can get (treating him like an asset).

    Sounds like a double bind. If DM shows his support of Lowry by letting Goran walk and making Lowry the rockets pg of the future (not treating him like an asset) then he'd fail as the GM because he let Goran walk. Yet if he signed Goran and traded Lowry, he be treating Lowry like an asset. Unless you presume that DM should sign Goran AND keep Lowry, or that DM could still trade Lowry without making him and other players feel like tradable assets?

    Could you please clarify what course of action you prefer/endorse DM to make with this pg issue?
     
  3. bmt1334

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    Goran is not better than Kyle. He is bigger, but is not quicker or faster. Kyle is the better defender of the two. He shuffles his feet just as fast as Goran and is a smarter defender. Goran may be a little better finisher but not by much. I would actually say Goran's court vision is a little worse than Kyle's, but that is practically a wash so we will call it even. In the playoffs i would rather have Kyle with the ball, he is not the horrific athlete you imply he is. Stronger pg's may give him a little trouble but they give Goran more since he is not as strong. Goran does not have the potential to be great. He has the potential to be a solid starting pg in the nba, that is it. You are wrong and the fact that you say 100 out of 100 times is a joke. Even i'll admit the difference isn't that much and I am pro Lowry
     
  4. DaFranchise03

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    I agree Dragic has more potential but i still think there isnt enough evidence to prove he will become that much better than Lowry. For 4 mil, i would not have taken the risk.
     
  5. rolandvpro

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    this is stupid to post on bbs however i have read many posts you have done. great salesman and i think you should be an agent and maybe work for a top sports agency such as BDA (dont know your current employment). or desires but you have what it takes. http://www.bdasports.com/ send resume


     
  6. tigernet

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    Give me a break. This is fans web site, everyone has his own opinion. He can enter yours. Have a ever contribute to this web site?
     
  7. daywalker02

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    I think you even believe he could lead us to the playoffs and the promised land.... after all

    You should play fantasy ball
     
  8. tigernet

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    With 5 Million/year, I would prefer to take someone like J Lin. My opinion, we need a pass first point guard who can make his teammates better, it is simple.
     
  9. daywalker02

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    My opinion all second tier PG are pretty similar, have different strengths though ... in the end it is about the whole 5 players on a team

    We need a better starting SG, SF, and better PF..... really strenghten this team. All people are doing, talking about the PG situation.
     
  10. tigernet

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    I don't worry about Dadakota's personal opinion about the team. Dadakota keeps attacking other Rockets fans if they have different opinions with him.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    What?

    Methinks you are getting it backwards my friend.

    I will argue, but noy personally attac, unless they draw first blood.

    DD
     
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    what if dragic played for the nets and jacked up 17 fgs. His stats line would be greater than the guy most here circle jerk for. We've seen opposing defenses send their best defender, sometimes a small forward on gogi, a point guard. Pay the man!

    I want to keep lowry also. 30 minutes for all. I sound like a broken record.
     
  13. jtr

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    I don't believe Lin should be in a conversation with Dragic and Lowry. For all of the obvious reasons.

    I also don't believe that there currently is a clear choice between Lowry and Dragic. IMHO they currently equivalent (not equal) almost-but-not-ever-quite-all-star type PG's.

    But, given the circumstances, I would ship Lowry out and over pay Dragic.

    If Lowry is on the roster, I believe there is almost no chance of resigning Dragic. Ship him out.
     
  14. HiGHurNAMEis

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    It's this simple.

    K.Low in a regular season with adequate rest & treatment is on par with Dragic. So keep the cap space & replace him with Machado or some other rookie.

    They are both adequate point guards with the same amount of talent with slightly different skill sets. Going with your figure of $8.5m as the assessed value of Dragic. I have to ask is he really worth an extra $3m? How many more games do we win with Dragic + back up than K.low + back up?
     
  15. Dave_78

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    Somehow I get the feeling that by the time McHale leaves town, he is going to leave veteran on this team begging for a trade. Lowry and Martin are just the beginning. Just a hunch.

    I'm not committed to keeping one guy over the other. I'm not even close to sold on Dragic maintaining his elite play (or even maintaining starter-quality play) but I do like his upside and attitude. On the other hand, Lowry's skills are proven, his stats are not a flash in the pan and his clutchness is probably beyond anyone on this team since the Championships. But him to come out like this is troublesome. I suspect he feels betrayed by the team and the fans after giving every drop he had to give this team and then having everyone turn on him. His reaction is emotionally immature but far from making him a lost cause.

    I'll sit back and let Maury make this decision and then criticize it later like a true fan.
     
  16. Dave_78

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    fixed
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Heh, I would still take a fully healthy Brooks over a fully healthy Lowry, yes.

    But I would take Dragic over both.

    DD
     
  18. JayZ750

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    isn't it odd Lowry is being so b****y when he had his best season under McHale?

    I believe Dragic has had more than 10 brilliant games. In fact, if you look at every year, when he was a starter (even with the Suns), he outperformed his non-starter games. This isn't a huge surprise, as you'd expect with more time, he'd be better, but it's more than that. Surround him with better talent, and make him the principal ballhandler/creator, he becomes what he maybe truly is, a near-all star level PG. Basically, Lowry, without being b****y.

    Moreover, you're misrepresenting what happened at the end of the season. It was when Lowry came back that the team started to lose.

    kind of random comment. We have the rights to an accomplished Euro PG. We may have Lowry and Dragic back. we may pick up another PG in a trade. Last year we had to let go of a PG we signed as a FA who turned out to potentially be a pretty solid player.

    Plenty of opportunity to pick up 2nd/3rd string points.
     
  19. kmav23

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    Lowry is a cancer now... he has to be traded....

    along with MArtin . Scola and bud

    Build around
     
  20. Garner

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    Sheesh, I wouldn't go as far to say he's a cancer...
     

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