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The Rockets' Approach This Offseason Might Not Involve Using Cap Space

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BimaThug, May 28, 2012.

  1. BimaThug

    BimaThug Resident Capologist
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    leebigez, where are you getting this notion that the Rockets do not have "gobs of cap space"???

    My OP in this thread simply points out the OPTION of making moves to decrease cap space via trades, all the while being able to re-sign Dragic, Lee and Camby without regard to the cap AND being able to utilize salary cap and trade exceptions. JUST ONE OPTION AMONG MANY.

    The truth is, the Rockets could conceivably create a HUGE amount of cap room if they so desired. A few (very realistic) trades and/or use of the amnesty provision (if absolutely necessary) would give the Rockets the ability to add just about any 1-2 free agents they wanted and/or to make almost any trade imaginable, cap-wise.

    I know you're frustrated with the direction of the team. But please don't extrapolate that frustration into thinking that the Rockets don't have options, including the option to open up "gobs of cap space".
     
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  2. DaDakota

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    I get that from us "Fans" perspective, but Morey and companies JOB is to evaluate talent, and I am calling into question that ability.

    Their ability to find QUALITY talent or difference makers is in question.

    Where is our Tony Parker - 26th pick in the draft, or Manu Ginobli?

    That is an organization that can find talent.

    DD
     
  3. Carl Herrera

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    I think Dragic might be willing to wait to sign a contract while the Rockets pursue free agents/trades if the Rockets would guarantee that they would give him a certain contract offer (say, 4 years, $36 million) as of a certain date (say August 1, 2012) no matter what else happens with their other moves. This means they'll have to tell him (under the table, of course) that they need to have his salary value at the $4 million cap hold in order to pursue some FAs like Asik but whether they succeed or fail to sign the guy doesn't change their willingness to pay Goran. Goran may be willing to delay signing a contract, but he won't be willing to lose out on substantial money.
     
  4. OlajuwonFan81

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    Sure we haven't managed to find all stars in the 2nd round like the spurs, but for where we are selecting Morey has done a fine job relative to the rest of the league. Yes I understand it is frustrating that we end up with the 14th pick in the draft, but don't blame morey........blame our owner.
     
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    And you to sir. The Gasol trade is verifiable. Anything and everything beyond that is what it is. Speculation. I believe that subterfuge and misdirection happens often, maybe even on a daily basis, by the front offices around the league. This leads to rampant speculation by fan sites. Is there enough data available to separate the chaff from the truth? I do not believe so. If you think otherwise please tell me and I will not bother you further about it. But there is data and there is reliable data. Be careful about what you rely upon.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    Les does not draft players, or make trades, Morey does.

    DD
     
  7. Carl Herrera

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    The Spurs found two stars in the 2nd round a decade ago. If it were that easy, they wouldn't have had a decade-long hiatus in finding stars in the 2nd round and wouldn't have had to spend money on Richard Jefferson.
     
  8. xiki

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    Doesn't Asik fall within the 'Gilbert Arenas Rule'?
     
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    Morey has to make those trades within a certain scope that Les has set and even then Les has to approve the transaction.
     
  10. jtr

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    Quite possible. But then I totally could see Morey sitting in Les's office prior to any trades being consummated.
     
  11. BimaThug

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    I think otherwise. The end. ;)
     
  12. xiki

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    Owner Alexander signs off on every transaction. Owner Alexander involves himself in all trade discussions that have any legs. Owner Alexander is hands on ala Cubes just without the PR or self-serving nature. Or Donnie to lead him thru the dark alleys.
     
  13. jtr

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    I have to ask - is that true? Isn't Morey functioning under Les's no tank rule? Do we have any understanding of the relationship between Les and Morey? Do we have any means to listen in to their conversations?
     
  14. DaDakota

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    Nope, just common sense conjecture.

    DD
     
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    More importantly, where is our Tim Duncan? Now, that's an organization that knows when to shut players down and tank the right way. :cool:

    What I'm trying to say is that we could have possibly found our star role players like Manu in Landry, Lowry, Martin, or Dragic. We need a superstar first and foremost.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    You are danged right they do, and so did this one, that is how we got Dream, Ralph and even Yao.

    Now how has it gone with the new way of doing it?

    DD
     
  17. jtr

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    And I will never question your foray's into what I view as speculation. Can I, at least in cap conversations, depend on you to state your view on cap in my conversations - the old "it is speculation until Bima confirms" line I have used extensively? I would appreciate it.

    Thanks
     
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    conjecture
    [kuhn-jek-cher]   Origin
    con·jec·ture
       [kuhn-jek-cher] Show IPA noun, verb, con·jec·tured, con·jec·tur·ing.
    noun
    1.
    the formation or expression of an opinion or theory without sufficient evidence for proof.
    2.
    an opinion or theory so formed or expressed; guess; speculation.
    3.
    Obsolete . the interpretation of signs or omens.
    verb (used with object)
    4.
    to conclude or suppose from grounds or evidence insufficient to ensure reliability.
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    verb (used without object)
    5.
    to form conjectures.
     
  19. jtr

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    But posts not by you and not referencing your opinion will be fair game.
     
  20. DaDakota

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    Caring, as in - I don't give a **** !

    DD
     

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