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Disgruntled Lowry feels it’s his time to move on

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BossHogg713, May 25, 2012.

  1. jtr

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    And you sir!
     
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  2. TXRoxBBall

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    I think the players might feel like many of us that mchale is overmatched and just don't respect him. If that's the case, he has to go.
     
  3. meh

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    Again, this can be said about probably every other coach in the NBA. The Rockets fans were pissed about Adelman going with KMart/Brooks over Lee/Lowry for a long time, as well as his players stop hustling on defense. Heck, even Popovich got heat for having to resort to retread scrubs back when the Spurs couldn't develop young guys. Go search every other fan forum and you will find "Coach X is a buffoon and if he only listened to me the team would be 10 times better" for every team.

    I do not want a coach that's cashing $5 million dollar paychecks and complaining about what his player composition is. I don't think Adelman felt that. But if he did, then that's much worse than anything McHale has done.

    Adelman could've resigned if he didn't want to coach a mediocrity. But if he took the Rockets money and gave a half-assed effort, then he deserve to not get his contract renewed.
     
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    As bad as they may be on defense, kmart and brooks were competent at the 1 and 2. Scola can not play against centers. He can't score on them as well and can't play defense. Anyways, adelman was known for offense and not defense and went with his offensive lineup. Mchale preaches defense all the time, yet uses scola over camby and dalembert. He needs to stay true to his coaching style. He can't preach defense and use the worst possible defensive combo
     
  5. hahachui

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    We cant find a player better than Lowry with 8th pick,,
     
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    Lowry / Martin for Dwight

    Done !!!

    Then sign D williams
     
  7. JD88

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    I think Lamb, Beal, Barnes, and maybe even Lillard would be better.
     
  8. meh

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    I would venture to say every Rockets fan who actually watched Brooks play last year would say you're delusional.
     
  9. claydavis

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    comparable and happier yes.
     
  10. HillBoy

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    Well, at least Popovich has a system. Can anyone explain exactly WTF is McHale's "system"? No, they can't because you cannot describe something that does not exist. Now, it was widely accepted around here (and at the Rockets' front office) that McHale would be some sort of "figurehead" head coach and that the Rockets would adopt a "coaching by committee" approach. There was much gleeping here about how his asst coaches would handle the X' & O's while McHale would manage the situation. Well that certainly worked out terrific didn't it? Some much so that all of the red koolaid drinkers should be breathlessly awaiting the Rockets' upcoming fall season with the figurehead McHale at the helm.

    But somehow you want to blame the players because they somehow choose to remember how different things were under Adelman when the Rockets actually had a head coach who knew WTF he was doing. How dare they demand that the head coach show competence. They should satisfy themselves with his witty jokes and after-dinner speeches which are far more vital to the Rockets' success than his ability to coach the players to wins.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    I want Lowry traded, but I agree with him about McHale.

    DD
     
  12. stipendlax

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    Step 1. Re-sign Dragic
    Step 2. Lowry + Scola for Gasol (or other combination for Howard, if available)
    Step 3. Sign Steve Nash as the backup PG
    Step 4. Win title
    Step 5. Repeat
     
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    The idea of Dragic, Parsons, Monty, and Gasol on the floor at the same time does make me tingly in the nether regions a little bit.

    Although we'd be giving up a billion points a game, but at least it would be entertaining.
     
  14. jtr

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    Of course McHale has a system. But he had no off season to get his team acclimatized to that system. So the half court offense always started out with a high screen and roll using whom ever was currently manning the 5. Not very imaginative, but without a real low block threat early in the clock his alternatives would be to run a wing screen and roll along with weak side screens to move into a pick and pop/roll ... Certainly more complicated. Probably would take some off season work to implement.

    Let me get this straight. You think that an obviously intelligent top 50 NBA player of all time who has spent his entire adult life in the NBA does not have a system?

    So, again no off season to put his system in place. In case you have not done the math several Rocket players made over 100 grand a game they played in last season. At that compensation level they should STFU and do their very best. So yes it is those players. Cry babies who seem to think they have an entitlement
     
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    So all of you coach wanna be's, what does it take to put an offensive system in place? I will give you the a hint. The first step is to outline the goals to be accomplished. In detail. The second thing would be to take a couple of the concepts and blackboard the X's and O's. So detail the rest of the process to me. It really is not very complicated.

    P.S. If you don't have the resume to get an interview for an assistant coach position in the NBA you are NOT qualified to be the Rocket's head coach. Please do not make statements such as "anyone on CF could do a better job than McHale". It is just drawing attention to your ignorance.
     
  16. MadMax

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    Then why the hell did you bother outlining the steps?

    You need to stop the holier than thou condescension here.
     
  17. jtr

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    I think I am expressing indignation at the tone of the conversations on CF. People here have absolutely no qualms about posting incredibly ludicrous statements and then just walking away from them. I try never to do that.

    And I did not outline the process. I just gave everyone the first 2 steps of it. Even at the high school level there should be another 5 or so steps in that process. At the NBA level? No idea to be honest. Just perhaps someone here understands the NBA game well to inform me of those steps.
     
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    I expect Bima and Carl to be able to effortlessly complete that simple exercise. Jopat, HMMM, and some others probably could do it. DD also.
     
  19. Bball_Gill

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    I can personally guarantee you that I would get laughed off of any NBA practice court in a New York second, and booted off any assistant coaches seat in not much longer than that. These are the best basketball players and minds in the world.

    I do agree we need a system. A game plan and a coach that is in place for the long term. I can't think of a guy I like more than Van Gundy, but the all defense approach seldom produces championships, and I guess you could make the same type of argument with Adleman.

    Of course we need a bunch more talent. A lot of folks think about when we had a "good team". The best we have done in a long time is fifth seed. We are down to the final four and the worst team is a third seed. It would also be nice to have talented players with the right attitude and who play on both ends of the court.

    Watching the playoffs just reminds me of how far away we are.
     
  20. TEXNIFICENT

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    With all due respect to your "experiment", its about talent. After that, motivating talent and getting guys to play together. If you don't have the horses or can't get those talented players to work as a unit, what you write on a chalkboard doesn't matter. While you have to have a system (a plan) there is no such thing as a magic system, its a myth.
     

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