[Yahoo] Is Kyle Lowry The Best Point Guard in the BA?

Agree

 

^True. I just pray to God we don't end up losing both.

 

If that happens the team will suffer big time, but the draft pick will go up, see...win win...

DD

 

This should be a small blessing in disguise.......... because we can focus on other spots on the team.....

 

You are doing a decent job of protecting your favorite boy Lowry - but I think you are doomed to be dissappointed, he is gone.

DD

 

I don't have a favorite boy...as you say.... but I like Lowry... I think the captain of the team should be given the benefit of doubt
I put the team before players..... unlike you.... I would have even parted with Yao in 2010 for a better outlook

I am for rebuilding because we don't have much left.... I agree with you that Morey and McHale have achieved virtually nothing in terms of success after the Tmac-Yao era

 

Are you sure that you just really don't like Martin because you are way off on your analysis of how much Martin needs FT's to get his points. You do realize that this year Martin only shot 4 less FT's a game than he did in 2010/11 and only 3 less than he did in 2009/10? Wade down about 3 FT's in each of the two previous years. Durant down about 1 from 2010/11 and 3 from 2009/2010.

Durant - 2009/10 scored 9 of his 30ppg on FT (30%), 2010/11 - 7 out of 28 (25%), 2011/12 - 7 out of 28 (25%)

Wade - 2009/10 scored 7 of his 27ppg on FT (26%), 2010/11 - 7 out of 26 (27%), 2011/12 - 5 out of 22 (23%)

Martin - 2009/10 scored 7 of his 21ppg on FT (33%), 2010/11 - 7 out of 24 (29%), 2011/12 - 4 out of 17 (24%)

 

I can say the same.... Dragic is good for a stretch of games..... but he is not worth the hype and more than 7 million a year.

 

I am all about the team, and what is best for the team is the better player Dragic.

The guy that is the better athlete, is tall for his position, has better vision, and finishes better at the rim without flopping all over the place.

Kyle got beat out, it is pretty simple really, why do you think he is whining his way out of Houston, because the org has probably already told him that if he is back he is the backup to Goran, and he wants no part of that.

I don't blame him, he just got beaten out by a better player, it happens.

DD

 

Where are you getting your contract figures from? Goran's value will be set by the market, he is worth whatever the market says he is worth, that is how the real world works.

DD

 

So you think Joe Johnson is worth $20mm next season? Gotcha.

 

Dragic struggles in most of the season and didn't get much playing time, so he's well rested for that stretch. If a player was inconsistent for more than 3.5 years and will enter free agency as a below average backup, it's only understandable he will use all his energy to showcase his worth.

Even his good stretch was not as impressive as Lowry's triple doubles earlier, not to mention Lin who shines in clutch time to create his own shot. At the best Dragic is an average Starting PG over whole season.

 

I think that is what the market said he was worth, and it is a choice as to whether you pay that market price.

Joe Johnson is better than anyone on the Rockets - that is for sure, but he is not a superstar player.

As for Goran, I think he is worth whatever the market bares, same for Lowry when only the Cleveland Cavs were willing to offer him something, they set the price, and the Rockets matched it.

Goran's price will be set, just like Nash's was set back in the day, and Dallas let him walk - over a measely $5 million over 5 years....poor choice.

Now, Houston faces a similar situation, they have an up and coming stud PG, that has proven he has all the tools and has unseated the encumbant who is also a top 15 PG in the league, so if you are building a winning franchise you always take the more talented player.

Dragic.

DD

 

It remains to be seen if Dragic can be better within 82 games......as the starter.
Player and inexperienced coaches have their problems........ Lowry was injured and McHale wanted to save the season but he failed..... that was clear... You whined the whole season about McHale...mind you. I won't fire him right away but give him one or two years and the situation will be fixed on its own.

20 game of good play does not mean anything to me..... you can go on about Dragic being the Jesus of PGs......
Fact we did not make the playoffs with him... so he is expendable so is Lowry. Next try bringing in an impact player, Morey or you will be gone.

 

You can say the same about Lowry, he has never had a consistent year - didn't start all of last year, didn't start all of this year.

And he has been hot and cold....the only difference is that Dragic is not undersized, can move his feet laterally, and passes the ball better, and finishes at the rim WAY WAY WAY better.

Dragic is better than Kyle - and could reach top 3-5 in the league, while Lowry is a hustle player, who gets by on competitve fire, but once the more talented players decide to hustle, Lowry can't keep up, he just doesn't have it athletically.

Smarts wise, he has it, so does Dragic, but when you have both smarts and athleticism as Dragic has, you have a much higher ceiling.

DD

 

Sheer speculation, Sir.
I watched him having turnovers, gambling in the lane.
Once he was figured out in the last remaining 8 games..... he couldn't do the same things you were praising him for.
Lowry was complaining about not getting much help, he did everything in the first 30 games... and was gassed. You surround him with a better team and watch him. Might well trade him to a contender.....

Nothing wrong with Gogi, I like his competitive fire, but I won't acknowledge him as a potential star player unless he goes to a contender and plays well within the playoffs like Manu Ginobili.

 

You need to do some more research, sir.

Check out his 24 point 4th quarter against the Spurs in the playoffs.

Case closed !

DD

 

FYI, I don't like scoring PGs as much as you like them. I'd rather have a Rondo with a tad better shooting.
I'll take his near triple double any day.
Lowry is not on his level but his rebounding and play making was good, even with a coach he did not like from the beginning.

 

That only gets you a one hit wonder. Case far from being closed.
I had that moment in mind when I posted, you get better when you are in the playoffs every year..... and the Rockets aren't.

 

Just for giggles, here are their playoff stats - both about the same number of games and opportunities.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/3012/seasontype/3/kyle-lowry

Lowry:

13 games played
19.5 min per game
33% FG
25% 3pt
2.5 apg
5.3 ppg

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/3423/seasontype/3/goran-dragic

Dragic
16 games played
14.8 min per game
43% fg
.325% 3pt
2.3 apg
7.6 ppg

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Even in a more limited role in the playoffs, Goran was significantly better.

DD