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African Americans support marriage equality at higher rate than general population

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, May 23, 2012.

  1. robbie380

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    Maybe maybe no.
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Which good people are you talking about?
     
  3. CometsWin

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    The blacks of course.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    How are there morals being corrupted? Is not interfering with other adults life styles when it harms nobody, immoral?
     
  5. amaru

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    Contrary to popular belief people of African descent don't share the same views on everything simply because we hail from the same ancestral continent.
     
  6. Carl Herrera

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    wow, you just can't let crap go, referencing a 5 year old argument, cool.

    anyway, black people were probably likely to be more truthful in polling.
     
  9. pgabriel

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    yeah, i'm sure blacks won't vote for obama because of this issue.
     
  10. pgabriel

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    the only reason the subject bugs me so much is because the only hateful preachers i see on tv pastoring mega churches on the evils of gheyness are white.
     
  11. plutoblue11

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    I don't know why people do that, it's even worse with Hispanics and Asians in how people just lumped them into such a large category.

    I guess it's more convenient for people to prove a point in these things.
     
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    Honestly, I don't understand this issue.

    The Government has no business defining what a marriage is period. There should be no such thing as a marriage as far as the government is concerned.

    2 Adults living in a house together=Ability to file taxes jointly/receive benefits together
     
  13. plutoblue11

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    People perceive things, like this 58% of african americans in a particular state support the marriage equality bill. Which sort of bucks the perceive trend that blacks are generally more homophobic than the general population. Even though, some people say this without regards to law makers who propose discriminating bills against LGBT people (typically republicans), or the amount of hate crimes perpetuate by an assailant based on race.
    So person makes a statement, "Black people do not support gay marriage."

    Very broad and possibly untrue statement, that I've seen people use not only on this site, but in many places.

    You could stick "some" or "most" in front of black people, and it doesn't sound as generalizing or stereotyping. Moreover, it's very much debatable to determine if that majority is overwhelming. IF that same bill came out 30 years ago, it might have been overwhelming, but as time along, that huge gap decrease. As the tides have shifted. For reasons, which is not different in any other racial/ethnic group? Tolerance and progress, more irreligious people in this country, more openly LGBT citizens are visible (through lobbying, protesting, self-identifying, and are in people's lives), and etc.

    Moreover, some people act like its impossible for someone to be black and LGBT at the same time, which is very misguided, since there's a proportion of the black community itself that fits into LGBT paradigm.


    Some are like, oh... gays are going to be holding hands out in public, kissing, and have the same access to children.

    It's going to ruin the community, the traditional aspect of household that is supposed to be represented by a man and woman.

    Why do these people have to have a special set of rights? Why can they not live like everyone else, just marry someone of the opposite sex and be done with?

    PDAs already exist with LGBT people. You may not see, or couples choose not to, but you if you are in the right place at the right time you might see, if you are the persistent voyeuristic type.

    Why shouldn't LGBT people have access to their children, especially their own? I do not quite understand that one, especially the one man-one woman aspect is almost a total myth historically, when it comes to families and living arrangements.

    One husband-one wife with 10 female slaves
    One husband-one under-aged wife who has been sold by her family for 5 cows
    One husband-one wife, both many sexual partners and friends with benefits with an understanding (Open relationships)
    One husband-one wife- 245 concubines
    One husband-11 wives
    One husband-One Wife-One Living-In Boyfriend (regardless if they are for the wife or husband)


    I'm not getting into the whole Christian marriage thing and its regard in human history, because it's a long drawn out story.

    People seem to disregard the separation of church and state in our country., while never revealing what is the importance in maintaining a "so-called" traditional marriage (there are different forms of traditional marriage as I just listed above). Lastly, most people who boisterously support the concept of Christian marriage or basing civil laws on Christian marriage would not know what a Christian marriage was if it hit them in the head with an aluminum baseball bat and bit them square in the a##.

    In many Christian debates (an ex-Christian-irreligious woman, here), there's more to a (Christian) marriage than simply choosing someone of the opposite sex to marry. There are several possible tenets and guidelines that one must abide to before a relationship is considered proper. One being unequally yoked, you do not hear alot about that in these arguments. It's actually pretty important, once you understand the concept, because it's not necessarily just a petty law of God. With greater understanding, you could say its simply for your own good. Personally, I think that kills alot of relationships from the start, because people think that's not important or take it lightly. Some Christians themselves, do not understand complexities of LGBT relationships, those principles that Biblical, or any that are some common-sense for a relationship.
     
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    I will admit that I skimmed and did not read this post......but I'm not sure how it relates to anything i said. :confused:
     
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    I quoted the wrong post of yours, it was supposed to be the same as the first response.
     
  16. amaru

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    Ah ok
     
  17. plutoblue11

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    I quoted the wrong post of yours, it was supposed to be the same as the first response.


     
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    It's not a five year old argument; it's one that arises every time a discussion of gay marriage does because it is an apt analogy and because some black posters here get completely bent out of shape over it.

    Also, your second statement is a really weird brand of racism. Where do you get off saying that blacks are probably more honest than people of other races?
     
  19. Batman Jones

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    I stopped reading here as this was the place I decided you were too ill-informed to make any point of interest. Poll after poll after poll has shown that blacks were disproportionally opposed to gay marriage or any other kinds of gay rights. Not 30 years ago -- right up until the polls of last week. The polling has been extensive and reliable.

    This extreme shift in attitudes of blacks towards favoring equal rights for LGBT is admirable and most welcome, but let's not rewrite history over it.
     
  20. amaru

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    The warped views some people have of us are hilarious.
     

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