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Keep Lowry, Let Dragic go and draft a young PG as backup

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tigernet, May 26, 2012.

  1. Z-Ro&Trae

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    aaron brooks situation with rick adleman all over again. i wish the rockets had this problem with centers.
     
  2. DaFranchise03

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    Like i mentioned in the other lowry thread.

    At what cost would it be to keep Dragic? If the Rockets have to offer 9/10 mil is it really worth it? I dont think so. Rockets have bigger issues than PG. I would have been up for letting Dragic walk if Lowry hadnt come out with this.

    For those complaining about Lowry, this is what happens when you treat players like assets. Look at Martin, his value dropped dramatically as well. Look at Dally, dude was replaced mid season. When will the Rockets realize you cant keep doing this to players.
     
  3. thetatomatis

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    Its not an option now. So lets not discuss. We all know how these things go once stars want to leave or get rid of the coaches. So its time to ship Lowry and it makes sense. I dont think its worth it to talk about keeping him over Dragic now. Its time to start talking what the Rockets could get for him.
     
  4. theglyde1121

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    Whoever stays or goes we will have a starting point guard I'm not sure who it is. There is a real good chance Dragic will sign elsewhere this off-season with a team that can offer a lot more money. Portland, Charlotte, and the Lakers go after Goran in the off-season. It's 50/50 chance if Kyle is traded or not in my opinion. Lowery and McHale can still co-exist, they are just both real competitive. I hate how everyone is faulting Lowery for the Rockets demise toward the end of the season.
     
  5. thetatomatis

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    Lakers have no money. He is not going to Charlotte because nobody is. Portland is not the land of milk and honey and its money is usually not huge offers. Rockets are still as good a chance as any. Lowry wants out. It all makes sense. Dragic should be the starter and Lowry should go.
     
  6. Rox>Mavs

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    Yes Lowry is on a cheaper contract and underpaid for his value, but if you trade him you still get greater value for him in trade bc other teams value him not just as a solid pg but for his value contract as well. Its not like if you trade him you lose that value, that value would be built into any trade for him.

    Also I believe if we can just match the best offer for goran he'd resign here. His preference to stay in Houston has value too, you just don't let that value walk out the door and get nothing in return.

    Best value would be to resign goran at market value and sell high on Lowry for his performance/contract value.

    You do this because it's what's best for a team in rebuild. You only worry about the feelings/relationship of the player that is the face of the franchise. That's not Lowry....not Goran either. Rebuilding teams keep improving until you have that player. If you wanna make scrambled eggs....you know.
     
  7. prs325

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    Hey guys relax. This will all be moot once Deron Williams signs ;-)
     
  8. No Worries

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    Neither Goran or Lowry are or will be all stars. Both are good solid NBA 1s who will demand starter minutes. At the end of the day, only one will make the team. This was exactly the same deal with Brooks and Lowry, except Morey was able to move Brooks before he walked.

    My guess is that Morey will make Goran a good offer but not overpay. Goran only stays with the Rockets if no other team overpays. This is a 50/50 proposition. If Goran does resign, the Rockets will trade Lowry or Goran by next season's trade deadline.

    The NBA draft (June 28th) precedes the start of NBA FA (July 11th). If the Rockets trade Lowry on draft day, they may not have Goran signed to a deal. In the worst case scenario Rockets trade Lowry and fail to resign Goran.
     
  9. RV6

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    first of all, this has been discussed several times already in other existing threads.

    Second, Dragic put up those numbers over 30 games as a starter, not ten :rolleyes: He did it last season, in the end, as well, so this isn't just a fluke. Give him starting minutes and he puts up those numbers.

    Third, he didnt "lift' the team in the end because we had no reliable back up at pg and he played a lot of fast minutes. He was also doing too much for the team offensively. The players and coach, at the end of the season, talked about that and how it just wore out Goran.

    Lowry's already checked out as a Rocket. There's also no guarantee that he's healthy. It's "just" a groin issue and not an acl, but this issue and his earlier hamstring issue could be a sign of some compensation going on in his body. We could be a looking at a situation similar to Rose's, where he has all these minor issues, plays hurt a lot, and then something finally goes out later in the year.
     
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  10. DaDakota

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    I said that Too and folks were adament it was not the case, when it obviously was.

    DD
     
  11. chief

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    First Off, what is considered a starting caliber point guard in the NBA changes all the time. From team to team,from system to system, from injury to injury. There are only so many starting spots in the league and the rest(Majority) are backup roles,witch is just as important of a role.

    And secondly, if you believe KL is better than GD your smoking crack..
     
  12. jopatmc

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    Deron, Goran, Chandler, Dwight, Motie.
     
  13. Easy

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    Well, he did his "brilliant games" exactly when we had no reliable back up at PG.

    I agree that the collapse is not all on him. But he is not the second coming of Steve Nash until he can show that his hot shooting in those stretches are sustainable.
     
  14. Sydeffect

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    Dragic definitely emerged as the better player. Lowry when he played late in the season halted the offense and cannot create his own shot besides the 3. Dragic is a better scorer, at worst has similar passing to Lowry.

    Only thing Lowry has going for him is his contract.
     
  15. larsv8

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    Who is better is mostly irrelevant in this situation, as they are similar in talent.

    Losing Dragic for nothing is bad.

    Trading Lowry for a similar caliber piece which gives Dragic a reason to resign here is the obvious choice.

    Dragic + trade piece > just Lowry
     
  16. johnnydeezy1

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    choosing crybaby lowry's side and letting dragic go would be a very dumb decision. For the people who say dragic only played great for a little part of the season, what else do you want him to do? He barely got the chance to start, but when he did he ran with it. Do you guys really expect him to shine playing 15-20 min a game as a backup? Bottom line, he's more talented than lowry and obviously more humble.
     
  17. RV6

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    Not claiming he's nash 2.0.... If that were the case, then we'd be talking about a potential league MVP...Goran's not going to be that efficien of a shooter and as great of a passer, but if you tone down each of those and increase the defensive ability significantly, you still have one really good player. His ceiling is borderline all-star, much like Lowry, but I think Goran is more versatile, therefore he can help you in more ways/situations than Lowry could. I also think Lowry has topped off, while goran may still have a bit of untapped potential. And of course, keeping goran leaves you with Lowry to trade for something significant.
     
  18. RocketForever

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    I agree. After such a publicity stunt, the damage is done. Trade him when his value is high.
     
  19. awc713

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    rockets were doing very well with dragic, and only started to falter once we tried assimilating lowry back in.

    maybe its because he was weak, but dragic was by far the more dynamic of the two players
     
  20. Rox>Mavs

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    This 100x
     

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