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Miami breaking up the big three if they lose in 2nd round?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Dream McLandry, May 18, 2012.

  1. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

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    The Heat "role players" are locked in at $23 million for next season and $18 million in 2013/14. It going to be very hard for them improve the roster.
     
  2. Rockets2K

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    Kinda what I was alluding to.

    The penalty for going over the tax threshold will become more severe as the next couple years go by, and if they keep all three of their main guys, I dont see anyway to get anyone around them that is capable of helping them win it all. Contrary to some folks opnions, Bosh Wade and James cant do it all themselves, they do need quality players to help them....and with your entire salary cap going to three players and much more severe tax penalties, I dont see how they hold on to all three by 2015.
     
  3. Air Langhi

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    They were a couple of LBJ choke jobs away from winning it last year.
     
  4. RedRedemption

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    I think Gestalt described it best.
    The Whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

    Having a balanced roster seven or eight deep is way more important than having two to three unbelievable players and a bunch of decent ones.
    There is just too much pressure on the top three to perform. Not to mention if the role players suck it up, then the team will lose. Wade and LeBron may be too good to perform against teams with great individual defenders... but against teams with good TEAM defense; a.k.a can run the zone to perfection... I think they have no chance against those types of teams.
     
  5. anthony59237

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    I suggested martin, dalembert, and the 16th pick for wade in another thread and I was laughed at. It makes a lot of since for both sides to me. the heat have no center at all, d-wade and lebron can't coexist. the heat need 3 point shooting bad and wade doesn't have that. Martin would be and excellent 2nd, 3rd option for the heat. people are seriously undervaluing what this guy can do. he's still a legit 20+ ppg scorer. Martin gives them an off the ball scorer who lebron can actually rely on to hit open threes and lebron doesn't have to worry about wade handling the ball, he's be the main ballhandler, dalembert is a legit shotblocking, 6'11, defensive center. He's not the best, but he's more than enough for the heat. plus, he's not as much a liability on offense as anthony. they'd be much improved. and to top that off, you get a decently high pick in a deep as draft class to maybe draft a point guard, ***** seems pretty fair to me. The rockets get a star in wade who may be declining, but still a great player. Hate wade all you want, but if we could trade for him and then go after dwight, and re-sign goran, we'd be stacked
     
  6. faraza84

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    If you want wade you have to give more than that.
    Martin
    Lowry
    Ppat
    Dalembert
    One of our picks
    Bud

    And we would need to take back salary like miller

    Heat need depth and they need to utilize lebron to his max, he's not as prolific as he was in Cleveland. He needs the ball more, this turn by turn crap is really diminishing both wade and lebrons abilities.
     
  7. anthony59237

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    hell no. what we give up in the first scenario is more than enough. that's a 3 for one deal right there. if i have to, I only give up one more player like pat and take back miller.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6ocldaw

    plus the 16th pick. that deal is more than fair
     
  8. DVauthrin

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    No it's not. Kevin Martin, Samuel Dalembert, and a mid 1st round pick for Wade would get laughed at by Miami.

    You would have to give them a point guard upgrade in Lowry, a shooting guard(a re-signed Lee, Bud, or Martin), and one of Scola, Patterson, or Dalembert to even get to the table. You also probably have to eat Miller's contract in that deal.
     
  9. Luckyazn

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    Miami's answer:

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  10. flamingdts

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    Also, it's not like their core players are valued highly anymore.

    Their role players are literally worth little to nothing, no one would trade for them.

    Bosh and Lebron has value, but Wade is old and showing his age. No one would trade their best pieces for him unless they are already championship caliber.
     
  11. emjohn

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    Let it go - when a Rockets board is telling you a trade is ridiculously lopsided in the Rockets favor, you should listen.
     
  12. Jontro

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    Scola + Martin for Miami beaches.
     
  13. anthony59237

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    it's not. both teams get what they want.
     
  14. tinywang

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    Miami should have traded Lebron for Dwight. Everyone's production goes up.
     
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    No we need Dwight. Yess :eek:
     
  16. 713

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    4 pages in and NOBODY posted this?? Guess I'll do the honor.
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  17. munco

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    this.
     
  18. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    I honestly don't think Bosh will be the odd man out if the Heat try and break up their three. It's pretty obvious that the Heat need good big men.

    However, do you trade away the best player in the league, in LeBron James, or the face of the franchise, in Dwayne Wade, to get better?
     
  19. Samdogg36

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    Don't see wade getting traded, labron is arguably the best player in the game so he won't go so basically all that is left is bosh to trade...I think bosh has shown in the past he can be a great franchise player, yeah hard to like him when he is on the heat (I personally don't) but the fact is that the guy can be one of the best in the game if in the right situation..Houston obviously has a longing for Howard which would be the best option but if that doesn't work they got to make a move for someone...bosh would be a good fit, not saying that there aren't other options I would like more but saying I would gladly take bosh as oppose to waiting another year and hearing about all the trades that almost happened and how the next season we are going to land a franchise player...
     
  20. daywalker02

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    I don't think they are breaking up anything.... you ride their coat tails as long as one can..... with their contract situation
     

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