Is Mack Brown the most overrated coach in college football

Probably a very good comparison to McCoy - both outstanding college football quarterbacks who did not or will not have successful pro careers. You're really only trying to convince one person that McCoy will not be a superstar in the NFL, and it ain't me.

 

Right, be ause Colt was such an ineffective college quarterback throughout his career.

 

Colt McCoy just always seemed like an aw shucks good Jesus boy who lacked the real fire to compete with the big boys, that is the vibe I had about him.

At least Tebow turns into an animal on the field and will make a good H back / TE

 

When did you decide to just go full r****d Moe?

 

You mean when did I decide to beat my head against a stone wall by trying to convince a bunch of homers they are homers?

Colt McCoy and Case Keenum are very similar. Guys who put up inflated stats against inferior competition. No one can deny they had great College stats, but they both lack the ideal NFL size and attitude to excel at the next level.

You all saw that Nebraska game where McCoy was dominated by Suh. You saw him fold like a little girl against Alabama.

Good guy, but not a fire-in-the-belly QB.

Sorry to piss in your cheerios, Longhomers, but the truth hurts.

 

He made something out of nothing. You gotta give him that.

 

He, just like Keenum learned to use mobility as an asset to elude over-aggressive pass rushers and buy time to throw.

Of course he was a good college QB, but against weak competition.

He wouldn't have lasted a season in the SEC.

 

Not a UT fan at all, but no one would even be talking about UT football if not for Mack returning it to national prominence.

Before he got there, they were getting anally raped by Miami in the Cotton Bowl, losing 66-3 to UCLA at home, and losing to A&M on a regular basis.

Obviously a lot of people here are too young to remember Mackovic and McWilliams.

 

So, if such a puny QB was able to leave college as the winningest college QB in history, that means Mack Brown is definitely not an overrated coach which, you know, is the point of this thread. Not moes fighting back against the mythical Colt McCoy NFL jock-riders.

But keep up that fight, pops! I'm currently in a battle on another message board trying to convince people Greg Oden wasn't the right choice for the Blazers and that they should've gone with Durant, so I feel your pain.

 

I just thought it was kind of ridiculous how people were saying UT clearly would have beat Bama with McCoy healthy. Nobody can really claim that, because nobody can know.

But if anything, them sticking around for a while in that game with Gilbert at the helm proved that McCoy wasn't that vital to the team's success.

 

Mack transformed NC from a 1 win team to a 10 win team.
Nine straight 10+ win seasons at UT
Only two seasons with less than 9 wins at UT
Two national championship appearances
1 National Championship

Regardless if he is doing it with recruiting or Xs and Os or both it does not matter because he is doing it. If it was so easy to win and recruit at UT why did John Macivick and David McWilliams have such a hard time with it.

Mac is a great coach. To say otherwise is just hate.

 

I have a difficult time believing that McCoy's performance wouldn't have been better than Gilbert's was. As you say, we'll never know...but I'd rather take my chances with McCoy than a freshman in his first game on that stage.

 

True, but you just don't know how it effects everything. Did Bama change their gameplan after that? So many ripple effects. Hard to say really.

 

You think that might have something to do with your utter disdain for him as a player?

 

If I hated every athlete that had religious leanings why would I even watch sports?

From watching Colt interviews I just always had the notion that he was soft.

 

Where does this ridiculous idea that Colt McCoy isn't a competitor come from?

 

Well, one guy was a high draft pick and has started/played in NFL games...the other...

 

Sure, this argument doesn't take away from Brown's accomplishments, but CFB is so cyclical. Just look at what other coaches did to their respective programs: Stoops, Saban (w/ Alabama), Chris Petersen put Boise on the map, etc. Texas had a rich tradition before Mack got there, so it was only a matter of time before Texas was a solid NCAAF team again.

Again, not trying to hate on Mack, but the whole "he turned this team into something from nothing" is a little exagerrated. Every team goes through rough patches and good times, some longer than others

 

Or it says Alabama (particularly, their offense) wasn't all as great as they are made out to be - especially given what we now know about just how good/bad Garrett Gilbert is.

 

That argument can be made about Texas to some extent, though it does show that Texas doesn't just recruit itself and not just anyone can have success there. But North Carolina had no history to speak of before Mack Brown, and he did make something out of nothing there.