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Pacers vs. Heat, Eastern semis

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by pacertom, May 9, 2012.

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Who wins?

  1. Pacers in 4

    5 vote(s)
    2.4%
  2. Pacers in 5

    1 vote(s)
    0.5%
  3. Pacers in 6

    45 vote(s)
    21.4%
  4. Pacers in 7

    33 vote(s)
    15.7%
  5. Heat in 4

    15 vote(s)
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  6. Heat in 5

    44 vote(s)
    21.0%
  7. Heat in 6

    49 vote(s)
    23.3%
  8. Heat in 7

    18 vote(s)
    8.6%
  1. tellitlikeitis

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    If LeBron James was truly the MVP, then he'd better come out and personally demolish the Pacers by himself. Forget Wade, forget Bosh. It's high time he proves that he is the best in the world.
     
  2. gmoney411

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    They played them tough in game 1 too. Without Bosh the Pacers have a real good shot. LOL at people that can't realize that.
     
  3. BigBenito

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    In LeBron and Wade's defense, Chalmers was 2-9 / 0-3 from three.

    And you have to feed the hot hand in the playoffs.
     
  4. Outlier

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    They only lost one game guys. It's not the end of the world for them. They can easily bounce back. Now is not the right time to dance like fools like SacTown usually does. That kind of arrogance is only for losers like him and what. Let them be overconfident, and let it bite them in the ass.
     
  5. pacertom

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    The Pacers play as physical as the refs will allow, and the Heat just simply do not like that. They don't like that with Bosh, or without Bosh. Obviously it helps the Pacers to have Bosh out, but this was going to be a competitive series either way.

    With Bosh out, the two best players are Heat but then the next 8 best players are all Pacers. A number of those 8 Pacer players would be above Bosh anyway, in my opinion, but I realize that is an unpopular one. Chris Bosh is not exactly Mr. Clutch, if he were healthy. The dropoff to Turiaf and Anthony is laughable, I will give you that.

    I hope that the Pacers can start to play well. The last 16 minutes of the 1st half were just brutal last night, on offense at least. They have played two good quarters where they shared the ball and made open shots, 2nd Q in game 1 (mostly the bench) and 3rd Q in game 2, while the bench reeked in the second quarter. They will play better, overall, on offense than they did last night.
     
  6. DonnyMost

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    Hibbert looked like a stooge yesterday. He has the opportunity of a lifetime, and he's totally turtling. He should be putting up an automatic double double, but instead he's being clumsy, awkward, and hesitant. This series is all on him. If his nuts drop, the Pacers take this series.

    I like the little rivalry Granger and James have going. Sexified.
     
  7. pacertom

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    This is a series between the 4th best team in the NBA (by regular season record) and the 5th best team in the NBA. It is not a series between the University of North Carolina and Prairie View A&M.

    Steve Kerr mentioned, on at least at least three separate occasions last night during the game, that the injury to Bosh, if prolonged, "would hurt them more WHEN they play the Celtics or Sixers in the next round"

    He never said "if"
    He repeatedly said "when"

    The first time I thought it was funny and wondered if he meant to say it that way. The second time I had a WTF reaction: "did he really say that AGAIN"? The third time let me know that it was no accident, no mistake, it was intended.

    He thinks like you, or he did before the game last night ended.

    We will see if you are right. There's a lot of work yet to be done and it's no time to celebrate anything. But I still stand by my pre-series prediction that every game will be closely contested, that there will be a tie score or lead change in every forth quarter of this series. On that prediction, I am 2-0.
     
  8. t_mac1

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    What I find funny is Lebron James joined Miami to played with Wade/Bosh so he could play less minutes, score/rebound/playmake less... Basically, to have less load to prolong his career.

    And yet here he finds himself in a position to do more than ever. He still has to log 40+ minutes, take 20+ shots, rebounds like a PF, play PG, defend positions 1-5...

    Anyways, Lebron James and Wade are damn due for a good shooting game. They have shot like crap for weeks now. And Dwayne wade with 3 straight sub 40% shooting games in a row dating back to game 5 v. the Knicks.
     
  9. SacTown

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    LOL, and ROFL if you really think the Pacers are going to beat the Miami Heat in a 7 game series. Seriously bro, come on man.
     
  10. SacTown

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    Mario Chalmers was AWFUL last night. And he took the game winner? Spolestra should be castrated.
     
  11. pacertom

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    You told us it would be a 4 game sweep! How's that working out for you? Quite a mismatch, don't you think, between the #4 and #5 teams in the league, by record?

    Props to you for even showing up here though. We all assumed that you turned tail and ran after your ridiculous predictions were shown to be full of crap.
     
  12. SacTown

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    My prediction was that the heat would win the series and that you are all clowns for even dreaming that Indiana will win this series. So, Wade and Lebron choked on their free throws and Mario Chalmers played horrible and the Heat lost by a few points. I don't think Miami is too concerned, lol. So if the Heat don't win it in 4, they will win it in 5. Not a big deal.
     
  13. t_mac1

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    OKC and Lakers are #2/#3. And it's going to be a damn ass lopsided series. Records don't mean much in the playoffs. Playoffs are about matchups. You could match up well with this higher seed and struggle v. a lower seed (Memphis Grizz was case in point last year).

    Miami would most likely have swept the Pacers with Bosh. Without Bosh, it'll be a little bit tougher. But if Lebron/Wade (it's not the Heat here; it's 2 on 9 or 10) lose this series, their legacy is going to take a huge hit. It would be an embarassment.
     
  14. Classic

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    I actually like this Indy team. Lookin forward to game 3
     
  15. pacertom

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    OKC and Lakers had the 3rd best and (tied for) 6th best records in the NBA.

    The marginalizing of the Pacers chances to even compete in this series has everything to do with the fact that they had one national TV game this year, and for those with league pass, they are not likely in your short list of teams to follow. They don't even make Sports Center unless it is the occasional Paul George dunk. They are an unknown quantity to even a number of avid NBA fans, and thus it seems unfathomable to many that guys named Paul George, Danny Granger, and George Hill can (together) fairly well bottle up Lebron and Wade with their defense. They did last night, while playing well on offense for only about 12 minutes in a 48 minute game. Hopefully they can start making more open shots and put the Heat away earlier. 5 guys scoring 15 each is harder to guard than two guys needing to score 35 each.
     
  16. The_Yoyo

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    he referring to overall in the nba the pacers had the 5th best record behind the spurs, bulls, okc and miami

    he wasnt referring to playoff seeding
     
  17. gmoney411

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    How can statements like this from you mean anything when you responded the same way when somebody said the Pacers would win game 2. You clearly don't know what you are talking about.
     
  18. t_mac1

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    I have league pass. If I'm not at work or have things planned, I watch as many games as I can, with the Rockets/Heat #1. But I watch my share of Pacers game. George has a lot of potential, but he's a lightweight Toronto TMAC without the scoring and playmaking. Hill is a good player. Hibber has potential, but vastly inconsistent (4 20/10 games all season playing in the weak East). Collison is a speedy guy, but inconsistency demoted him in the season. Granger? Please, overrated piece of crap.

    Overall, the Pacers are a "good" team with good coaching. They play like a typical Eastern team. Nobody is saying they're bad or mediocre, like I have stated with the likes of the 76ers. But they don't have a star, and they will repeatedly have trouble scoring the ball in the 4th quarter. That's why they choked a game to the hapless Magic, and nearly choked the 5th game again.

    Had James/Wade not choked last night, they were on their way to another monster 4th quarter and beat the Pacers AGAIN, despite playing 2 on 9. James/Wade scored 21 of the 23 points for the Heat yesterday (James 10, Wade 11), outscoring the Pacers AGAIN by themselves. And they shot terribly in that quarter too.

    Simply put, if the games are close all series, the Pacers have NO CHANCE unless you expect BOTH James/WAde to choke again. I don't see that happening, not both of them together at the same time choking. And their poor shooting is beyond the Pacers. James hasn't shot over 50% since game 1 v. the Knicks. Wade has shot <40% for 3 straight games, dating back to game 5 v. the Knicks.

    You seriously can't expect Granger to do anything offensively in this series. You seriously can't. George is still too raw to do anything except on the breaks and open 3s. Your best bet is to pound the ball into Hibbert/West, but Hibbert is too inconsistent to do anything for more than 1 great game, which was game 1. Your best bet is David West.

    But I agree with you. It will all come down to the 4th. The Heat have James/Wade. The Pacers have __________.
     
  19. gmoney411

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    The Pacers shot absolutely awful last night and still found a way to win. Odds are at home their shooting will improve. If the Pacers were playing their best basketball and barely winning I wouldn't believe there was a real chance of them upsetting the Heat but that just isn't the case. If Granger and/or Paul can shoot in the 40s the Heat are in trouble.
     
  20. Outlier

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    What's wrong with your head? Seriously? Nowhere in that post did I say anything like that. In fact, what I said is the complete opposite: to not be excited about one win. Don't relate me to you who gets arrogant after every win. :rolleyes:
     

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