[PC] So... A Diablo 3 Thread

Unreal Tournament 3 is one of them. You need to login online to be able to play with your SAVE Profile Settings. You can create lan game with more than 1 computer and play against one another but you can't play on the same MAPS ONLINE at the same time with 1 copy on multiple computers. But both can play ONLINE but on different MAPS. Maybe both can play ONLINE at the same time on the same MAPS if one of you don't login but you will have to redo/reset all your keys every time you don't login because it doesn't save it. I haven't try that playing with one login and the other not login on the same map.

 

I don't know about you guys, but I'm super stoked that I can't play the single player version of the game right now because of widespread server crashes. And here I thought nothing could go wrong with required online single player games.

 

Oops, wrong. You need to LOGIN to play ONLINE or else you just PLAY OFFLINE option. So no go both playing on the same map at the same time.

 

In the fine print, it states clearly: this software is LICENSED, NOT SOLD.

This means you are not BUYING the game, you are buying a single-user LICENSE.

It's not really all that different from the old days, when a game would force you to put the disc in the drive before you could play it, even though you had it installed on your hard drive.

I assume it is similar to WoW and the expansions.

For example, I have Wow on my PC, and WoW on my son's PC.

I picked up WotLK and installed it on my PC, and activated the serial on my account.

I *installed* WotLK on my son's PC, but he could not PLAY it until he had activated WotLK on HIS Battle.net account, and I had already used the key on mine. So I had to buy another box to get the second user license for him.

I know it seems 'greedy' on the face of it, but really, is it 'greedy' for them to not want you letting several different people play by using just your one copy of the game? I think you would feel differently if you were a shareholder in the company..

In any case, I am sure you could *install* the game on multiple PC's, and you could play on any of them at any given time with your own battle.net login. But if you try to log in using a battle.net ID which does not have D3 'activated' on it, it will not let you play.

So, if you were ok with your nephews play on YOUR battle.net account, then you should be fine (but only one at a time - if you are logged in and a nephew logs in with your ID, it will knock you offline). But if you want them to have their own accounts, then each account needs to have its own serial activation key.

That doesn't seem unfair to me.

 

Are you kidding me? I have many games that I can install on multiple machines and play it at the same time if I want to without issue. They have gone a little too far with even in a single player mode that you NEED to be ONLINE to be able to play it. What I want to know is if you have one account for the game can you make multiple save game version with different characters? Like one person login and play as a Monk and save it and the next person login with the same account but create another character and play it and save it.

 

I have it installed but didn't get a chance to play last night. But based on the beta (and on WoW) you can have multiple characters. So yes, theoretically you could have characters for specific people in your family. You just can't play together with them of course.

 

Not sure why this is such an issue for you. I know there are a few exceptions, but I've always assumed that games are sold with the intention that one copy legally allows one person to play at any given time. If you wanna talk about the "old days," what about the time when online games didn't exist and you had to have a phyiscal cartridge/disk in your hardware to play the game?

 

Things won't change as long as people keep supporting the product.

 

Change? To what? To a developer making a game in such a way that an obviously unscrupulous customer can share his one purchase among his many friends, so that the developer loses potentially hundred of dollars in sales, just on that one box?

Don't hold your breath that THAT is going to change. Blizzard has figured out a gold mine, it works, and it's the way it is going to be.

Think of it like the disc you put in the 360 or the PS3. You have one disc, you can play that one game on one machine at a time. And yet I don't hear people screaming about unfair it is that they can't buy the game once and let all their friends play it at the same time too.

 

With Discs you can create duplicates withe the right software, but with online there is no way you can play two people with one license.

 

So your point is they suck ass because they've found a way to prevent your piracy?

 

You don't get it. You can at least play it off line. You can have an extra XBOX360 in your home and make a copy and you can both play the same game at the same time. Piracy? BS. I'm copy and using it in my own home not selling it or giving it to someone else. It's like saying F U to the honest games buyer out there because of some piracy.

If Bioware worry about piracy and the ONLINE BS. At least give the one who bought the game an exta key and from there they can manage 1 copy game with 2 players coming from the same the IP address.

 

LOL I don't get it? I get it, you want something for nothing, and you are throwing a tantrum because you can't find a way to steal software from Blizzard. I definitely get it.

Heck, if you are entitled to free stuff, why should you have to pay for it at ALL then eh?

SMH

 

I agree with you that it sucks you can't play offline. Even though with broadband I'm online all the time, I'm still beholden to Blizzard servers being up or my ISP link being up.

However, everything else you wrote is stupid. Just because you buy one copy does not mean you should now have the ability to copy it for a family member. That's not BS. That's the definition of piracy. It does not matter if you're selling it. And yes, you are giving it to someone else... someone else in your family.

It's because you had the ability to duplicate software in the past that you now feel entitled. Well, you're not entitled. Just as you're not entitled to buy a single TV from Sony and then demand they give you another 'copy' so you can use it somewhere else in your house. That makes total sense since you're not selling it or giving it to someone else.

 

No ****ing idiot. It means you buy one game for $60 and 2 kids/people in the same home can play together at the same time instead of making people spend $120 if they want to play together in the same home. Either ****ing charge cheaper for a second key for the same home.

 

So are you saying I bought one copy of Skyrim and installing it on multiple machine and at home so all can play it at certain time or at the same time any difference than installing it on 1 machine and anyone from strangers that come to my house and play it is also considered piracy?

 

Dude...just buy an extra controller and play co-op or something. Chill out.

 

Yes. It's no different than you buying a single copy of Windows 7 and installing it on multiple machines. Microsoft makes it harder to do this but even if you manage to get around their checks, what you're doing is considered privacy.

Similarly, just because Bethesda doesn't have checks to make sure you don't install Skyrim more than once does not mean you have not broken the EULA and committed piracy.

The only thing that is different between Skyrim and Diablo 3 is Blizzard has found a method for enforcing their EULA and that pisses you off apparently. The EULA is End-User License Agreement. You're the End-User. If you don't Agree with their License then don't buy it.

 

In a way; yes. As mentioned earlier most EULA's are only for a software license. So if you were using more than 1 license at a time, you're technically pirating. A lot of people do it, but since we're discussing it...