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[ClutchFans] Rockets will seek Dwight Howard trade... again

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, May 15, 2012.

  1. Aruba77

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    this is my big fear; that we dig a hole so deep in the process of aquiring Dwight, that when he inevitable leaves, it's not just a matter of looking forward to next year's draft pick ...because it's gone. Or having the cap room to sign a franchise-altering free agent ...because it's gone. I am also worried about missing out on opportunities to rebuild through this year's draft because we are holding out for the Dwight Howard pipedream.

    I cannot tell you how outraged and furious i would be if we went all in on Dwight Howard to come out much worse off in a year's time. The old, "well at least we took our shot", rhetoric will not be any consolation. If we are giving up furture 1st rounders, we better be securing Dwight long-term, otherwise Morey will be recking the franchise for many years to come. This is really no joke.
     
  2. dobro1229

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    This is a very realistic trade scenario. I think there might be ways to keep Parsons out of the trade, but its probably going to have to include giving away the Rockets 1st rounder this year instead. IMO its probably worth it to retain Parsons. He's worth more to this team than that pick.

    Also remember Donatas Motiejunas will be coming over next year as well + we all know they are always active in purchasing 2nd round picks that turn into quality rotation players.
     
  3. Grandpappy

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    IMO part of Dwight Howard's so called attitude problems in Orlando might be due to SVG. Maybe they have not seen eye to eye on certain things. I dont know what exactly that might be, but it was quite obvious that coach and player were not on the same page on that team. Bring him to Houston where he gets to play under a hall of fame big man ....... only time will tell.
     
  4. Pete the Cheat

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    *sigh*...

    can't use amnesty on a player you traded for...
     
  5. DonnyMost

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    Well, when you're too good to draft a star and not good enough to attract one in free agency, you gotta do what you gotta do.

    If Morey can't build a contender around any of the stars we've gone after, I'd be surprised.
     
  6. moestavern19

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    We're stuck in purgatory and Morey was ready to roll the dice until Stern ****ed us.

    Now we just have to hope we win the lottery.
     
  7. J.R.

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    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q67

    In short, no.
     
  8. jopatmc

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    I'm thinking at this point instead of taking back Hedo, Orlando would probably prefer to dump Big Baby and Earl Clark or QRich along with Dwight. This type of deal would save us $2 or $3 mill of cap space for next season, while at the same time, save Orlando more money long term.
     
  9. LabMouse

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    Well, if our two first round draft picks are the top 8 or 12, then I see a chance, but now we have 14th and 16th picks as well as so called-anyone, the player who Magics can easily get through a trade from any other teams, I do not know why Magics are interested? As for Howard, I do not see why he wants to come to Houston either.
     
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    , what if it is a team he actually wants to go to and Orlando actually gets a good offer in return. For what Houston could offer to Magic, if I am Magic fan, I'd literally want the team to leave town, because you've lost out on another superstar and couldn't even get any good pieces to build upon in return.
     
  11. cooliobob

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    Personally, I don't think the Rockets stand a chance at getting Dwight Howard. Looking at this from Orlando's perspective, there aren't any pieces that are appealing enough to start their own rebuilding process. For a player of Howard's caliber, the Magic are going to be seeking at the very least young talent with star potential, which sadly, the Rockets don't have. If they aren't able to trade for young talent with star potential (John Wall/Kyrie Irving/James Harden/Eric Gordon-caliber players), they'll be looking for a package surrounding established stars that are currently hitting their strides (think Josh Smith/Marc Gasol/LaMarcus Aldridge-caliber players) to go along with a plethora of draft picks (which is about the only thing we DO have). Everybody knows that the draft isn't an absolute medium for finding star talent, which is why the Magic will damn sure they land either a young star-caliber stud OR a established star as previously noted. Also, fans have to recognize that the NBA is a business first. None of those players that people are proposing we trade are going to put people in the seats. None.

    While I do like the idea of Dwight Howard playing in a Rockets uniform, I think the chances of landing Howard are pretty much slim to none. The Rockets are better off prepping for this year's draft and not banking on this nonsense.
     
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  12. plutoblue11

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    If it were two top 10 picks, I could understand it more. Moreover, I cannot see them settling on a simple Lowry and Martin deal. They are going to ask for Parsons, Motiejunas (maybe), and possibly more future picks.


    I cannot imagine Dwight Howard being any happier than what Pau Gasol was when he found out he was being traded to Houston. It would be one thing if a star player said , "I want to go to etc...etc... and Houston." There's nothing appeasing or energetic about the franchise right now. It's just another NBA team. There's no fantastic upcoming prospect, while the team has been out of the playoff picture for the last three season, while Yao Ming has retired.

    You really have to see what the other teams will offer for Dwight Howard, if LA decides to let Bynum go, there's no way the Rockets could beat that deal.

    If a team decides to give up a solid big man with perennial all-star . . .

    Houston is sort of like Orlando, he's would sort of already be the biggest attraction in town (that's nothing new). Houston is not really offering Dwight, anything that Orlando cannot. He'll be one of the highest paid players in the league, if he stays in Orlando, while other teams cannot offer him more (according to FA rules).

    One of the biggest problems with Houston (and what Clutch fans poster) don't see is what Orlando wants in return. Houston is going to have to take on some bad salaries, and give up prospects in the mix. Everyone assumes Kevin Martin, Kyle Lowry, Patrick Patterson, Samuel Dalembert, and Luis Scola are the main ones in the deal. Thing is Orlando probably only wants one player out of that group. Jason Richardson is already locked in at SG. Scola and Patterson, iffy. There are a boatload of pfs, like Patterson and Scola is in his 30s.

    You can speculate these things all day or summer, it won't materialize. It rarely does. For some reason, I think he'll end up back in Orlando for another season or so, or he will end up on a team of his choice. Still, I see the Lakers, Clippers, where ever Deron Williams ends up at (Nets or etc), and etc. Houston might be 8th to 14th best team in the running. Posters do not seem to understand that they aren't the only team who is trying to get a superstar or a center, like Dwight Howard.

    Again my opinion, we do not have the best offer on the table (or will have one of the best offers on the table), while also having a good enough supporting cast to have a true contender.
     
  13. Raven

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    There's nothing more dangerous than a general manager in fear of losing their job. Coughing up future unprotected picks for a star who doesn't want to be here is insane, but desperate general managers do insane things all the time.
     
  14. plutoblue11

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    I believe Orlando is determined to not get fleeced in this deal, which is why they (and even Howard himself, more of location thing) are still married to one another. Orlando wants really good players in return, preferably young and upcoming or at very worst all-star potential. Originally, they were asking for Bynum and Gasol, Bynum with side pieces, and Blake Griffin. If they end up with any packages proposed by Houston, someone in that organization has failed and does not desire their job.

    If they are going to rebuilding mode, I don't see any motivation on their part to give up Dwight Howard in modest deal with the Rockets. If that happens, I cannot see them asking for anything less than the Moon and 3 oceans. Posters talk as if Houston has leverage, when they have none at all. I saw someone propose a deal of Lowry, Martin, Dalembert, and Patterson with 2 picks. Whoever Orlando's GM is I could picture saying, "What do we get out of the deal?"
     
  15. larsv8

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    So your question is, what could Brooklyn offer Orlando, because thats the team he wants to go too.

    And the answer is: If the Nets don't land in the lottery, nothing, absolutely nothing, except the 8th pick in the draft and/or Marshon Brooks. The Nets have zero to trade.

    Brooke Lopez is a rfa
    Gerald Wallace is an ufa

    We have leverage.
     
  16. emjohn

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    But here's the thing - why is it Clutch is reporting that the Rockets had a deal set to go (mutually agreed upon) that only fell apart because Dwight opted in?

    Unless we lost pieces that were critical, we apparently do have the components to get a trade done.
     
  17. Mr. Boombastik

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    i'll be very surprised if we get him, but man, wouldnt that be nice for a big guy

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  18. Don FakeFan

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    It will take top picks to get Howard.

    Rockets have nothing.

    This talk is pointless.
     
  19. t0mdotcom

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    I take it you didn't read the article?
     
  20. Mr. Boombastik

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    I fear this is true.
     

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