The funny thing about our picks is that we really don't need them as the roster is constituted, because they would have no time to play. I would rather we trade all of the picks, and Lowry and Kmart, and maybe Luis to move up as high as possible. We already have D-mo coming over, and Parsons and PPat still developing and maybe Morris....we don't need to get any younger, we need to get better. DD
yeah but none of those guys you mention has star potential. None of them! They may all be solid contributors one day, but none are even close to being franchise players. We need to keep doubling down on the draft to find a player to build around. The alternative is trying to convince teams like Philly to trade guys like Evan Turner. Regardless which way we go, guys like D-Mo, Parsons, Morris, and Pat have to be on the table. We really don't have a single player to build around at this point and that means we don't really have much. Our top priority as a team needs to be aquiring a young player with real star potential and we should be prepared to do what ever we have to do in order to succeed.
I agree, but none of the players picked in the 14-16 range will either....if you go by history.... DD
I believe the chances of Miami trading D.Wade are very very low but they just may consider it if Heat don't win it all this season. I posted this in another thread but it makes sense here and this is in the best interest of both teams. Deal Lowry, Kmart, Dalembert and (Parsons or 1st round pick instead if Miami will take it instead) for Wade, Mike Miller, and Joel Anthony. Why Miami should do it... With Wade and LeBron together they end up taking turns on offense because they both need the ball in their hands to play well. Trading for this package from Rockets allows Miami to put the following team out on the court which doesn't have as much star power as a team with Wade but a new team the works together better in my opinion. Lowry/Chalmers Kmart/ James Jones LeBron/Parsons/Battier Bosh/Haslem Dalembert/Turiaf Why Houston should do it... It would hurt to let that much talent leave especially if Miami insists on Parsons but this is what it takes to get a superstar and reshape the team. Also, it allows Rockets to bring back Dragic at the salary/playing time he is looking for. Dragic/(Kendall Marshall,Damian Lilliard, or Dion Waiters) Wade/C.Lee M.Miller/Budinger/M.Morris Scola/Patterson Camby/Anthony/(Meyer Leonard,Tyler Zeller, or Fab Melo) and possibly add guys like PG Kendall Marshall and C Meyer Leonard in the draft. This team won't compete for a championship next year but I think it woould allow room to add a big time player in the following offseason. 2013 free agents include D.Howard, Bynum, Al Jefferson David West and Milsap
that's why you package players and picks to move up as high as possible. But even players picked at #14 and #16 can turn out to be key pieces. Just off the top of my head (cause i've been watching Indy in the playoffs), Granger (#17) and Hibbert (#17) are two excellent recent examples. The draft really is the way to go, if you have good coaches who can develop players, and good scouts who can identify talent.
Totally agree, which is why the Rockets have been so frustrating, rather than go all in on that approach, they have been half assing it. They should have gone really young and lived with the results, even Portland did that, late in the season and got in the top 10....GRRRR. DD
That's just it, we don't have coaches who can coach. It blows my mind that between McHale, Sampson and the rest of the coaches they couldn't come up with a single play to run. I mean WTF! And you can't blame that on the lockout.
Raptors not after Lowry??? http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/221026/Report_Raptors_Set_Sights_On_Nash_Lin
Morey isn't saying that Lowry is on the market. He can't have that info leaked (if it's true, which it should be). That article tells me the names of two PGs that won't go to Toronto despite the team's efforts: Nash (will want a ring); Lin (NY has the edge there).
There are lots of places Lowry could land, including Toronto. With Martin, Lee, Sammy and Bud going into the last year of their contracts; with the addition of D-Mo, and potentially two other new rookies; this is really the time for Houston to just start over. We can't retain Dragic without trading Lowry, so Lowry simply has to be moved. Martin, Lee, Sammy, and Bud all have value, we can't afford to pay them in free agency, and none are really part of our long-term strategy, so we should focus on trading them for picks. Scola's clearly a bad contract that we should try and get out of, but regardless of what happens, one of Morris, Pat, or Scola will have to go in order to make room for D-Mo. That pretty much leaves Parsons, who i like, but would make avaialble for trade if the offer was right. We have a chance to start over and finally start moving in the right direction. We should take this opportunity. We need to double down on this draft, and build from there. Aquire picks, package picks, and try to get lucky, hitting on that franchise player.
No, but if you offered to take a contract off of their hands in the process they could overpay for Nash and especially Lin, or they could maintain cap flexibility, or help their cap flexiblity and also get a better all-star calliber PG. The Lin/Nash pursuit is strickly to put butts in their seats. This isn't a basketball move. This is why I believe Lowry might actually get moved after draft day and possibly right before the season starts. I think teams are going to pursue other options in free agency first, and after the fact, Morey will have a better card to play in trade.
Lowry, DeRozan, 2012 1st rounder, and Valunciunas is a good core. I'd like to see the Raptors bring winning basketball to Toronto. I wonder if we could snag a 2013 first rounder and another young'un from them if we manage to resign Goran.
I think the #8 Toronto first rounder might be the best pick available to trade down into the top 10 to get. If you think Toronto would do this deal for Lowry straight up your probably going to need to take back salary on their end to get the deal done. I hate the idea of Amir Johnson the contract coming back, I would not mind the depth he brings off the bench for the 4-5 position. Still, until the Dwight situation has been exhausted this Summer I dont think Morey takes back that big of a contract in a Lowry deal. However, I still believe the #8 Toronto is worth negotiating for if you can sell Lowry to them as their PG going forward. Unless your taking back salary for Toronto I would think its in their best interest to try and sign either Lin or Nash in free agency first and foremost before they trade that pick. Its probably going to end up being a situation where they see who falls to that spot and who is going to fall back to #14 that they might like just as much.
