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And T-Mac Still Hasn't Made It Out Of The First Round.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Aussie_Fozzey, May 10, 2012.

  1. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    True, but as a Rockets fan, I respect Yao more than Tracy because Yao represents the Rockets with such class and loyalty. Yao cared about the Rockets more than he cared about Yao. I can't say the same about the other guy.
     
  2. trueroxfan

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    I don't think even Tracy respects Tracy more than Yao. Yao was an anomaly, a magnificent talent who was humble, respectful, and never satisfied with his performance. He was truly one of a kind.

    I think you tend to overemphasize McGrady's fan base here. Certainly there are a good amount of us who really enjoyed Tmac as a player here, and there are still many of us who wish to see him do well in the future (if there is one).

    You accuse him of all these things with no hard evidence. Was his career disappointing? Yes. Everyone knows that. Did he give it his all on the defensive end 100% of the time, no. You aren't alerting anyone of anything new. Was McGrady at one point one of the best players in the league, Yes. Is he now? No. We are very clear on these points.

    McGrady and Yao were the faces of the franchise for 5 years. Is it really that absurd for people to root for a guy who provided us with a lot of great moments in his tenure in Houston? Everyone is disappointed we didn't go anywhere with him Tinman. We just stopped b****ing about it long before you.
     
  3. val_modus

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    This X2
     
  4. daywalker02

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    Yao is one of a kind. Those guys are rare specimen on the court and good men off it.
    Tmac is another story.
    I think he was frustrated because he cared about being on the Rockets, he didn't want to leave. I can't blame him for that. Blame his mistakes.

    If you can't respect him, that is fine with me but remember among all the teams he played for, he played most of his career years here in Houston, whether he was liked or not.
    He has feelings for Houston and there is no doubt about that.
    And a lot of fans that are not TOFs respect his game and the excitement that he brought apart from the negatives.
     
  5. Yung-T

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    See , you're not actually replyin to me. People killed you in arguments for years about this and you still come up wtih the same sorry azz replies that most of the times don't even touch the points the opposing poster made. It's not getting defensive or carrying a jock, it's plain and simple truth.

    He failed the playoffs again and again because his teams were terrible and NEVER favourites to win a series. He has one of the highest playoff PERs ever, his teammates failed to deliver when it counted. Yet you never reply to this with a logical counter or dismiss that your gay lover Kobe never won without Shaq or Gasol.

    And I don't give a **** that he "betrayed" the Rockets or whatever you call it, this organization did nothing for him and the medical staff is partially responsible for his injuries.

    I won't get into a basketball argument with you as all these years and truth never changed your idiotic standpoints or behaviour. You are constantly trying your hardest to ridicule a guy and dismiss that his career was destroyed by injuries and a bad Rockets management. He achieved everything you will never have and yet you think he's a loser because he never succeeded in playoffs or didn't reach Kobe level for his overall career. That is why you don't look good in this and why there's no need to argue with you.

    And please don't reply with your pre-written "you delusional TOF whinin, no true Rockets fan blablabla" trash replies, I don't give a F.
     
  6. Kid Canada

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    I will never understand the bitterness towards T-Mac on this site. Sure he didn't pan out for the Rockets, but it was because of injuries out of his control.
     
  7. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    At least Tracey made it t the playoffs this year.

    Seriously...can we just move on?
     
  8. Classic

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    Lol, Tinman with 20 posts
     
  9. tinman

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    Then how did we get home court advantage on the Utah Jazz? I'm pretty sure we were favored to beat the Jazz, but you'd know that if you were a Rockets fan.

    2006-07
    Playoffs:
    Lost NBA Western Conference First Round (4-3) versus Utah Jazz

    http://www.clutchfans.net/news/1396/t-macs_first_time_for_optimism/

    But, when McGrady himself disrespected that team, I knew there was some selective amnesia going on. Said McGrady recently about the current Rocket cast:

    "This is the first time I have been to the playoffs and have been excited about what the team can do. We can accomplish something. This is the first time I've felt like I had a great supporting cast and I feel we can hopefully advance past the first round. We have a great core of players."

    However, keep in mind that this is what T-Mac said before the playoffs in April 2005:

    "I feel that this could be my time. This could be my chance to not only get past the first round, (but) I feel like this team could be a contender. I've been in the league eight years. This is the first time in those eight years I have this feeling. I feel like we can do something really special as far as making it to the Finals and being a surprise team. I never had that feeling in the past. I always thought we'd be a first-round team, possibly get out of the first round. Now I honestly feel we have a chance."
     
  10. tinman

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    Isn't there a spurs thread that you are suppose to be on telling us why they still suck?

    Someone started this thread to note a fact that a player who has participated in the first round of the playoffs during his career has not yet won a playoff series.

    in this thread, the Houston Rockets medical staff have been accused for his failures, his teammates, his coaches, fans on the internet who aren't millionaires etc

    Also some fans feel 'vindicated' that he joined a team that was a perennial playoff team and that the Rockets did not make the playoffs.

    you note he has feelings for Houston, yet he also has feelings for every team he's played for:

    In a March interview with Fox Sports Florida, McGrady argued that Howard should stay with the Magic instead of signing elsewhere. "It's a great city," he said. "It's great weather [....] So you already have something good there. Why try to go somewhere that you just never know?"
     
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    I don't see much sense why we should shift the focus to Spurstalk.
    McGrady dominated the Spurs that is the only thing I can think of.
     
  12. tinman

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    I know some of them are good fans, they pay up bets that they lose like VBG did. Unfortunately for him, Tracy didn't "rise in the playoffs" for him to win his bet.

    Then there are some of them that don't pay bets. Some of them have an alternate version on why Tracy left the Rockets, and some of them are just have an alternate version of the NBA.

    Some of us are just trying to spread facts. For example, I mentioned before Tracy joined, the Hawks won their 1st round series 3 years in a row.
    That's just a fact, yet some people think that was something evil that I said.
    nope, it was real.
     
  13. tinman

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    I'd rather have all those championships that they won during McGrady's "dominance" of them in a few regular season games.

    Daywalker,
    when McGrady returned to play one of his former teams, the Rockets, the fans booed him. This has happened with both the Hawks and Pistons. Also the Rockets commentators have taken subtle shots at him.

    Why is that?
     
  14. daywalker02

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    That is not the topic. Anyone would take Duncan over McGrady when Duncan was in his MVP seasons.
    McGrady played 6 years. That is all I am going to say. People boo and people respect him. He is controversial. You of all should move on. Eventually.
     
  15. tinman

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    you are right, the topic is "And T-Mac Still Hasn't Made It Out Of The First Round. "


    And I didn't start this topic.

    You are assuming "Anyone" meant non delusional NBA fans.
     
  16. trueroxfan

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    Do you smoke a lot of crack? Do you think that I am ashamed of not paying my bet I made with that tool jo mama? The one where the guy wouldn't stfu about even though I was dead broke and practically in a 3rd world country? Ok bro, you're cool.

    Also, seems like all those drugs made you spit out random facts.
    Tinman: "*loud hacking cough* Bill, did I ever tell you about the Atlanta Hawks, they drafted Jason Terry with the 10th overall pick in 1999, ha! You never saw Tracy McGrady get drafted in 99'."

    I feel like you're the old senile poster on this board. The one stuck in 200
    Still holding your game 7 ticket from the Mavs series, wondering around the Toyota Center grounds shouting obscenities and spreading the "gospel" of Tin. Who's first commandment states: "Thou shall b**** about Tracy McGrady to all who are unaware of his failures."

    I'm sure it doesn't matter to you, but have you gotten any converts?

    I feel like maybe everyone should make a small donation to send Tinman to an institution, poor guy just keep uttering meaningless facts as if they make his point stronger. : ( It'll be alright man, the system won't let you down, we'll get you some help.
     
  17. emjohn

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    More than a few of you guys need to lose the Rabbit Ears anytime someone dogs out McGrady, and use the ignore feature if a poster keeps baiting you into the same multipage arguments over and over again.

    There's never going to be a safe heaven on this BBS to talk about Tracy, Pippen, or Kermit Washington. You've got better odds going to the Florida Westboro church and talking up abortions and Islam.
     
  18. tinman

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    oh you were so broke cause YOU made that bet for $50 that took an entire 82 game season to resolve the outcome.

    VBG is just as big of a McGrady fan as you but he seems to honor his bets. His bet only took 6 games to resolve.
     
  19. trueroxfan

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    Great for him. I'm not a good money manager, not to mention I really didn't give a ****, in the end, it's my money and when I want to donate, I will donate. Since y'all bring it up all the time I can't cave in and pay. So really it's your fault I haven't paid yet. Yah, I'll go with that.

    You're just as stuck in the past as the group of people you criticize. I bet you miss 1999 alot now.
     
  20. tinman

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    You lost your bet 2 seasons ago. Tracy was with the pistons.
     

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