People will always look at LeBron's accomplishments with skepticism after "the decision". Choosing collusion with superstars to form a contender instead of organically making one on your own is going to set him apart forever from all the other elite players in history.
This...if he wins one, in my eyes, its wade that's winning one with lebron on his coat tails. I used to like lebron, he's still the best player talent wise in the league but when he chose to join other superstars and win not 1 not 2 blah blah i lost all respect for him as a competitor.
So how exactly does the NBA choose the MVP? Popularity? Stats? Best player on best team? Spurs and Bulls had the best records this year but I don't think nobody on those teams were considered. PER? But only if youre popular enough?
It should be the player who is most valuable to their respective team (and that team needs to be a top tier team). I think Nash deserved both of his MVPs and i think Robinson deserved his too. Just as Lebron deserved his MVPs. Nobody is really robbed of the MVP imo. All Star now that is popularity.
Or could it be that the MVP is the most popular player in Stern's eyes during that moment of decision?
Because it makes so much sense to get mad at a free agent for choosing to play with LESS help than other greats (Magic, Bird, Cap, Jordan for his last 3) have won titles with.
Thats what I believe. ^ Plenty of players have been robbed. No way Shaq should only have one. Kidd should have one. Hell even Mcgradys 03 season. (I guess his teams record wasn't good enough)
Yeah, I think there were just alot of sour apples, out there. That move to Miami was classic. Up until 2010, I've never heard the notion that a superstar or competitive player should stay on an inferior team to win a title versus going to a more competitive franchise or forcing an inferior team to maximize their roster. I've never known any Boston or LA teams that believe that they should settle for the least amount of the talent and try to win with one star player. It completely goes against the competitive nature of sports to just run out with the same old team every year and producing the results. The Cavs had reached their ceiling and potential, and its simply not desirable free agent destination, because of the location and it's not the greatest franchise in the world. Players would not mind going their to play, if the team were competitive or they had alot of potential. The Cavs were an after-thought without Lebron that team had nothing else going for it. You cannot say that about most teams who have one titles. There was always 2nd and sometimes a 3rd star or contributor who could make team good enough to remain competitive in the playoff picture.
If he couldn't win one last year, what made you think he could win one this year? He's playing with the same guys. I hope to see a Spurs vs. Heat in the Finals. Lebron will hate Texas after this year.:grin:
MJ in 97 and possibly Tim Duncan in 99. The 1st Nash MVP, it was sort of toss-up between Nash and Shaq, but realistically speaking. Again, I think it was more of sensational factor that Nash had that year and the big turnaround. Though, you could argue Nash had better supporting cast (Joe Johnson, Amare Stoudemire, and Shawn Marion) vs. a younger Dwyane Wade. Plus, the 13 points and 11 assists, those are kind of weak for MVP numbers, comparing them to past MVPs. The 2nd Nash MVP, you could make an argument for Kobe Bryant that year. At the time, he was arguably the best player in the league. Even in the playoffs, you could see that Bryant was a better player on an inferior team. I'm not even a Kobe fan, but he should have more than one MVP. 35 ppg is an abberation in the NBA, outside of Wilt Chamberlain, only 2 other players have ever averaged over 35 ppg before Kobe (qualified statistics) - MJ and Rick Barry. It moves up to 3, if you count Elgin Baylor in 61-61 with 38.3 ppg (only played 44 games). Kobe also had 28.0 PER and accounted for an average of 44 total points (points and assists combined). We must also add into the equation that during that time, Kobe often guarded the best wing player on the other team. Nash's stats were 18.8-10.5, over 50% shooting, 43% 3 point range, and 92% FT% shooting. 23.5 PER. He accounted for 39.8 points (points and assists totals) Again, I thought Nash was a very good player, but you cannot tell me what he did in Phoenix was not anymore magical than what Kobe did in between Shaq and Gasol or what LeBron did in his last 3 seasons in Cleveland. Neither player had a supporting cast that was equal to the Suns.
