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If the Rockets could sign one of Gordon, Hibbert, or McGee.....

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Phillyrocket, May 10, 2012.

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Which FA do you prefer if you could only get one?

  1. Javale McGee

    41 vote(s)
    14.4%
  2. Roy Hibbert

    155 vote(s)
    54.6%
  3. Eric Gordon

    88 vote(s)
    31.0%
  1. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Member

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    Hibbert and McGee are not difference makers. Why would you pay these guys max money when you could find someone like them or better in the draft?? The difference maker is Gordon.....when he is playing. The only thing Gordon would do is make the bench look nice with his array of shiny new suits. I just don't trust Gordon to stay healthy for a season.
    So, none.
     
  2. coachbadlee

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    Why isn't Harden a choice? Now thats a FA to pursue if any at all.
     
  3. jayhow92

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    He's not an FA this season. And of course the rockets should go after Harden if the opportunity is there.
     
  4. ObamaFan

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    Roy Hibbert is 25, was an All-Star, humble( not a knuclehead) and is a shot-blocker as evidence in the playoffs, plus he is 7'2

    Are you forgetting we have 2 high 1st rounds this year, in a very deep SG-SF heavy draft.

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    You take Hibbert, and thats common sense

    5 years - 65 million is a bargain for Hibbert, especially when you see what horrible big-men like DeAndre Jordan are making

    We would have Hibbert matched up with D-Mo, two legit 7 footers, and 6'10 lockdown defender slasher in Parsons.
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    I would even take Hibbert over Harden, and i love James Harden
     
  5. coachbadlee

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    Pardon the ignorance. Hows about a step by step on the graph making?:confused:
     
  6. rockets06

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    R. Hibbert should be the main target this off-season which I'd gladly give the max. Also agreed that if the opportunity comes up to go after J. Harden, Houston should be first in line. We have 2 picks in whats considered a deep draft this year & any player could be gone at the right price. Morey has got to make some changes.
     
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    If you watched the game the bulls got eliminated in you would have seen him lose the game in crunch time, two missed free throws then fouling iggy, do not want.
     
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    I don't think you can pin that one on Asik. Brewer never should have passed the ball to him in that situation.

    While McGee is a talented player (with the occasional mental lapse, aka just give the damn ball to one of your guards on the break), he hasn't really developed a dominant low post game. The Rockets offense looks putrid when they can't establish a low post threat, and McGee isn't a post player you can run the offense through. He's a really good garbageman, and we certainly could use someone with some fight when it comes to rebounding and lane defense, but I'm not sure he'd be the right fit with our current personnel or with whomever we may acquire in the immediate future.
     
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    I'd pick Eric Gordon, only if we don't have Lowry, or Googi. I pick Hibbert, only if Lowry, or Googi stays. EG has a lot of upside, reminds me of Deron at a cheaper price because of his early injury-prone status. Easily with the PG, we can probaly get all sorts of free-agents because Gordon plays on Team USA, he can befriend his teammates in joining his team. I'm hoping 1 of the 3 joins the Rockets, it will be a better team.
     
  10. Pete the Cheat

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    that would be an interesting post if Gordon actually played PG
     
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    Out of the 3 players listed, Eric Gordon is by far the most talented of the bunch, however, a talented big man is a incredibly hard to find. Especially, big men that can contribute at both ends of the floor. If I was forced to throw max money at one of these guys, I would have to give it to Hibbert because he is young enough and talented enough to compete with the elite bigs for years to come. A big that is 7'2" with skills is not something you'll see everyday. If you have a player like Hakeem help to develop some more post moves and better footwork there is no telling how far he would be able to take a team like the Rockets.

    I am a huge fan of Gordon and to be completely honest, he is my favorite player out of the 3 on the list. He is the true definition of a "combo guard" as he can put the ball on the floor and create shots not only for himself but also for others. He is young, extremely talented, and the only thing that really concerns me about him is his injury history.

    As for JeVale McGee, it's amazing how quickly forget is entire body of work (or lack thereof) and are all of the sudden willing to throw so much money at a player that has largely underperformed for a player of his size, athleticism, and supposed skill-set. He's been playing well during the playoffs, but again, this is simply one playoff series. If he had been killing it for a longer period of time and didn't have a history of making a damn fool of himself, I might consider showing him some dough, but honestly, who's not to say he won't resort back to his old ways once he gets that money? I'll take Hibbert over him any day of the week.
     
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    Eric Gordon is definitely the most talented of the three but its hard to come across an all-star center like Hibbert. Would definitely have to take him. Big step in the right direction.
     
  15. Aruba77

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    I wouldn't sign any of the three. Gordon has knee problems, Hibbert is not a max player, but will be paid like one, and McGee is a misfit.

    I would sign Asik. He's long, tough, gives 100%, great defender, very athletic.
     
  16. JayZ750

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    McGee basically has the same stats as Hibbert, but is a year younger. He actually had a higher PER this year, and was a more effective shot-blocker. The only thing going against him is his "knucklehead" reputation.

    He doesn't appear to be Gilbert Arenas, Ron Artest crazy... but he is definitely a strange bird.

    That said, I think he has more upside than Hibbert, somewhat meaningfully so.

    It's very likely he never achieves that upside, but I'd almost rather take that chance. He's just so inconsistent right now. But again, even with that inconsistency, and strange-ness, he gave you more or less what Hibbert gave you on the whole.

    That's not true. Our current best pick is 14. That's not a high first rounder. By definition it's a mid first rounder. We have 2 mid first rounders, which are always hit or miss, regardless of the depth of the draft.

    I don't think it's so obvious, but of the 3 presented, hard to argue meaningfully against it. As stated, I'd be tempted to go McGee over Hibbert, but just by a hair. And I wouldn't point to a bad big man contract to justify one being good. Clearly Jordan is overpaid. But big men are expensive.

    Still, if you aren't completely sold on Hibbert (or McGee), I don't think it makes sense to justify signing him to a max or near-max deal just because other big men that are clearly worse and overpaid are getting big contracts. I think you just pass at that point.

    That's just lunacy, man!
     
  17. ObamaFan

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    Javale McGee is better than Omer Asik

    Its a mootpoint, because i would rather have Hibbert
     
  18. dobro1229

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    I just dont get the Asik an even close to max-level player. Dont get me wrong, I like Asik, but if you think he's a cornerstone player you are in La-La land. He has zero offensive game, and that part of his game doesn't seem to be a high priority for him or his coaching staff to develop.

    Im not looking for Hakeem or anything out of the Rockets starting center, but keep in mind that if your throwing him in the mix of players the Rockets have on their roster now and going forward, he's not going to fit within their offensive scheme. He's going to be a liability, and will be taken out of the game in the 4th quarter because of it.

    Players that cannot help the Rockets close out games shouldn't really be considered anywhere close to max-level contract guys.


    -Back to the topic of the three players mentioned, I think Gordon has the most potential to be a cornerstone type of player, but he's had so much trouble already staying healthy that its tough to really make a huge investment in him without feeling uneasy about it.

    With the Rockets past history with injured stars, I just dont think they go this route.

    Dallas however, will most likely strike out on Deron Williams and offer the max to Gordon.

    -Hibbert is well known from Rockets sources like Feigan n co. to be a target in free agency. Since he is restricted, I do not think Indiana even blinks twice about matching any offers this Summer. Especially if they make a series out of Miami this next two weeks which I think they will, and I think Hibbert will have make a huge footprint in that series.

    -McGee is an interesting prospect, but I just dont think the Rockets really view him as more than a project big man. I think they make an interested run at him, but they will almost certainly have a price in mind that minimizes their risk moving forward.
     
  19. Kate81

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    Hibbert, then Gorden.

    McGee shouldn't even be discussed.
     
  20. Fierguard

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    He did miss two free throws. He is a 48 percent career free throw shooter. He never should have had the ball. You might be able to argue that was a mistake on the coaches part, but really when you are running out the clock as a PG you do not give up the ball unless you are trapped and have too. Watson might have missed them as well but he has a much better chance of making them.

    I do not blame Asik for that. Just like I do not want him leading the break. Sure he missed the free throws, odds were he was going to only make one. He was 4-5 up until then so really the averages were saying... he is going to miss.

    The second part. The foul. He was the only man back! He was the only thing between Andre and the basket! What was he suppose to do? Try and draw the charge as a back pedaling seven footer? He contested the shot and the offensive player initiated the contact. It was not like he ran over to a 90 percent free throw shooter and mugged him, he fouled a guy shooting 62 percent for the year to prevent a layup that would have lost the game for the Bulls. You want someone to blame? Blame boozer and his 1-11 he makes a few more shots and it does not matter.

    That being said I am not interested in Asik, at 40 million dollar, as I think you really need a Taj Gibson like player to play with him and I am not sure we have that player on the roster. Patterson might be close average statistic wise but I am not sure the physical characteristics are there. If you draft a Moultrie, or Henson then pairing them with Asik I believe makes more sense. I am not solid on D-mo being a defensive minded guy yet.

    Bleed Red Rockets Red.

    Fierguard
     
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