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Yugoslav War

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by da_juice, May 6, 2012.

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  1. TheShooter

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    I am Bosnian, I was born in Bosnia as a Muslim, now immigrated in Canada after the war. The conflit in the Balkan is not simple but can be easily paraphrased.

    Everybody wanted their independance but not Serbia. Serbians killed and raped hundred of thousands of Bosniaks. Serbians to me are to most barbaric people in the world and I don't care being called ''racist''. I have all the rights to hate these cowards. The Serbian army could only kill innocent civilians, women and children but couldn't hold on a fight against an Army. The same thing happened in Kosovo with the Army of Liberation. I hate Serbians with all my heart.
     
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    Bosnians aren't 100% slavs, actually we don't like to be considered the same ''race'' as Serbians. Studies have proved that Bosniaks (Bosnian Muslims) are mostly of Illyrian descent and part Slav only. Also, Ottomans also mixed alot with Bosniaks so we are a pretty mixed nation. In Bosnia, some people are white like Americans, but some other are way more tanned like Iranians and some like Indians (those we call them Gypsies). Islamic culture is very alive in Bosnia, it's nothing like an Occidental or the other European countries. Only Kosovo and Albania could be compared to Bosnia.
     
  3. bucket

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    Just saw this in the New York Times. Very interesting short article by a Bosnian now living in New York. It's about a restaurant in New York intended to serve people from former Yugoslavia:
    Marshal Tito in Queens

    Another by the same author (written in December) about going back to his hometown and seeing people from his childhood:
    The Reckoning
     
  4. Turpis

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    TheShooter how old were you when you emigrated/moved to Canada?
     
  5. stefanb

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    BINGOOOOOOO. They share the same blood, especially Croats, Serbs, and Muslims from Bosnia. People there disguise themselves as nationalistic but really they are separating themselves with the use of religion. There were a few political movements in Dalmatia and Montenegro about a 100 years ago. One was the Serbian Catholics of Dubrovnik and as well a very small minority on the Montenegrin coast (Bay of Kotor). Bosnia is the most interesting in the 14th century the Ottoman Turks took control of the region and many people converted to Islam (previously being Catholics, Orthodox, and actually there was "The Church of Bosnia" which was a mix of Catholicism and Orthodoxy. For instance a Bosnian Croat might have a lot of Serbian blood in him but he claims to be Croatian. Same for the Serbs. In the early days of Dalmacija there was no telling who was who, because there was so much mixed marriages going on because Serbs and Croats settled there. The Croatian and Montenegrin coast was built by the Italians so there is some Italian blood mixed in there as well.
    The point is, there is a no point to be nationalistic if you are from Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, or Montenegro (Serbian people just a separate country), because a nationalist Serb for instance, could have Croatian ancestors and vice versa.
     
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    I beg to differ. There is no telling of what origin you come from because Islam is fairly new in Europe compared to Catholicism and Orthodoxy. That Illyrian thing is a fairy tale that people like to make up because they deny their Serbian or Croatian origin. Christianity has been in Bosnia well before the 10th century. Serbs and Croats converted to Islam in the 14th century. Show me a link to these "studies" that have proven that Muslims are of different origin than Serbs. And no propaganda youtube videos allowed. Don't believe the hype. We are all the same people, just different religions. You are spreading hatred that the future generations shouldn't be burdened with.
     
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    After the election I'll revisit the thread. I know a bit about the topic, and spent a week in Belgrade with a Yugoslav family in 1971, which is why I've stayed interested. Tito was running things back then.
     

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