Spoiler Everything regarding Robert's death is answered by the end of Storm of Swords And I'm glad they made Osha look much better (understatement) than in her previous scenes. I thought she was pretty in the Harry Potter movies. After the very disappointing castings of Shae and Asha/Yara, at least they're hitting on the redheads. I didn't like how it seems that Cat is negotiating behind Robb's back for her girls. And where the heck is Jaime? Some of the deviations I don't think anyone has a problem with, because this has to be streamlined, for budgets and to keep interests up. But there are casualties along the way. Davos from what I understand is a fan favorite in the books, and here he's a shell of that with the same Blue steel/la tigra/ferarri face in all of his scenes. There are scenes they kept which are accurate to the books. They may be subtle but if you catch them then they do as much to flesh out a character than unnecessary scenes like Baelish wiping residue off a hooker's mouth or that stupid speech with Roz. Like Clegane stopping Sansa from pushing Joff or how it took Theon several strikes to behead Rodrick.
I think it is all part of her progression. She seemed to become more wise and strong when she became khaleesi, but other than being in unfamiliar territory she wasn't faced with scenarios where she needed something desperately that she couldn't have. That's where she is now and she is having to learn the game and how to get it. Her whiny threats haven't really set well with me either, but I think it is all a process. She'll learn the best way to motivate people soon enough.
I didn't think she became more wise and strong when she became khaleesi. She got a more powerful status, but her character didn't change, she stayed the whiny girl who feels she is entitled to being the queen of westeros. She just hat the Khal to back her up and people treated her with respect. But she didn't change. I think her development as a character is only beginning.
I think she did change. Before she had no confidence and only did what her brother wanted. Now she's starting to sound more like her brother.
I've heard some book readers complain about this in other forums, and I think it's been brought up here, so I'm wondering (book spoilers): Spoiler Do people actually believe that Oona Chaplin's character is truly a Volantine girl named 'Talissa'? I could be wrong, but it seems completely obvious that she's actually Jeyne Westerling. And assuming she is, wouldn't it make perfect sense for a Westerling, a family sworn to House Lannister, to assume a false identity while in the Stark camp? Even her 'exotic' look can be explained by the fact that her mother's side of the family are from across the narrow sea. Of course I could always turns out to be wrong but it just seems painfully obvious me, so I sort of shrug at the book readers who are all "they replaced Jeyne, WTF?!"
Spoiler i can see your point about her hiding her identity and that would be a decent twist rather than changing the character altogether, he did meet her when he got wounded or at least its described that's when he became intimate with her, it makes sense that she is already on the field helping the wounded
It pretty much follows her Charecter growth as in the book. At this point she has no real power but struggles trying to lead her people and trying to get ships with only one real commodity. Her dragons are the only thing that make her interesting at this point, it's why her people follow her, why she was allowed into Qarth and it's the one thing she will never sell, trade or give away. She does become a power broker at some point and becomes a lot more interesting once she leaves Qarth.
What people are following her? Seemed like maybe a couple dozen at the most and now most of them are killed by whoever stole the dragons. I personally can't stand her character. Her believing that she has a right to the Iron throne is hilarious. b****'s dad and brother were crazy. Who in their right might would support her claim to the throne and actually fight for her? Hope she never comes in power and is humiliated over and over again.
thats an awesome perspective, her khalasar is small and weak, but because her brother embedded in her mind that the iron throne belongs to the targareans she believes people wait for her to return, without her dragons she really isnt much but a hot piece, i have my money on it being the handmaiden who taught her how to love thats tole the dragons since danaerys had commented on how much they loved her
I agree with (and thought the same thing) your idea. Spoiler Since Robb is so dreamy to the fans of the show, it only makes sense that they spark up the romance a bit early. But she's a bit ballsy....Doesn't wait for the king to dismiss her, lies to him, etc. A bit out of tune with what you would expect with royal custom.
how can that handmaiden kill so many of those people though? seemed like that freddy krueger looking dude from the previews for next week.
Assuming she gets her dragons back and survives throughout the series, I would answer: Anyone who doesn't want to wind up Westeri barbeque?
What happened to the rest of the Dothraki? There used to be tends of thousands of them, right? Somehow I missed that part of the story.
After Drogo died many of them left to join another Khal. The remaining few she gave the option to stay or go, only a handful of hardcore supporters stayed with her.
She's a bit naive. Most of the characters in the books are much younger than they're portrayed in the show. I believe Danny is only 13 at the start of the series. She only knows of Westeros what she's been told and she's been told by Viserys, magister Illyrio, and Ser Jorah that House Targaryen still has supporters in Westeros so she believes it to be true. She has as much claim to the throne as anyone else. Certainly more of a claim than Joffrey. The throne was taken from her family by Robert Baratheon. Before then, the Targaryen's had reigned for 300 years. Westeros was once seven separate kingdoms, but Aegon I landed in Westeros with dragons and a small army, conquered the lands, and unified them under one king. Since then, the Targaryen's had been the only ones to sit on the iron throne until Robert led an uprising. I think Dany is justified in her belief that the throne his hers by rights. There was the scene this season where Varys says that power resides where men believe it resides. Most people of Westeros remember Targaryen rule and if Dany shows up with 3 grown dragons and an army, there will be many willing to give her back the power her family once had.
remember when danaerys said men love to talk when they are happy, and then when she was in the courtyard she was talking with someone, i am assuming someone from one of the 13, she got he door/gate open for them and them they killed the men and danaerys' other handmaiden, there was a riff between the two slight however it's just my guess tho, this was not in the book so im really looking forward to seeing how it works out
After letting it sink in, I kind of like the change. At this point, she has no real power and all she can do is make future threats about what she'll do if she ever gets power. Nobody REALLY wants to help her. They just give her respect because of her dragons, which they want for themselves. So now she's lost the only thing that gave her status in Quarth. The only reason her pitiful Khalisar was even following her. So what will this woman with no real power do to get back the only things who make her who she is? They're setting up a cool turning point for her character. She has to stop begging for favors and start taking what she needs.
