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The uppity negro took credit for killing Bin Laden

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, May 7, 2012.

  1. rimbaud

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    Uh...not exclusively it doesn't. It comes out of Europe (Spain and.or Portugal) as a way to refer to people from Africa. Beginning in the early 20th century until the 60's it was the preferred Race term for blacks in the US.

    I know you are probably just trying to be cutesy but just in case I thought I would help you with some holes in your knowledge.
     
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    yawn

    Once again our resident bigot stepping up to the race line but too much of a coward to step over.
     
  3. bigtexxx

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    so you're telling me you know more about this term than MALCOLM X?

    BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

    I've heard it all!
     
  4. giddyup

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    Excellent self-diagnosis!
     
  5. G Zus Kryst

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    Up 'til tha 60's it was PREFERRED to hav BLACKS drank at a dirrty ass fountain, wats ur point??
     
  6. CometsWin

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    :grin:
     
  7. krosfyah

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    So I take that as being the only way you know how to concede a point without actually doing so. Heaven knows you NEVER want to actually concede a point. Your Internet pals will lose respect.

    Lol.

    Anyway, call Obama an uppity negro all you want. I can take offense in any number of ways but it won't be because you miss applied the term negro to a "half white" man as you suggested. (formally y'all would just say half breed but now ya'll are more PC so you don't offend anybody while you attempt to marginalize).
     
  8. CometsWin

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    It's naive because it ignores the history of conservative politics and the method in which conservatives have attacked Obama. Race has played a central role in that from the birthers to the people who insist he's a Muslim to the Tea Party nonsense. Race and the conservative southern strategy both play a significant role in why Republicans constantly win the south. To pretend that race doesn't play a role in the kinds of criticism made of this President is equally nonsense. Now is every criticism of the President racist? Certainly not but there's no question in my mind and in the minds of minorities that it plays a significant role and we know this because it's what happens in this country. It's not a myth, it's not a race card, it's reality. You know I don't recall any Bush the Magic Cracker songs being recorded when he was President but Barack the Magic Negro sure got a lot of play by Limbaugh. Coincidence I'm sure.
     
  9. bigtexxx

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    so you're also taking the opposite position as Malcolm X on the word negro. You're completely lost, my friend. Take a few deep breaths to gather yourself and recognize the absurdity that your position entails -- you're arguing that the word "negro" has no slave connotations. For real?
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    The word does not. The connotation comes from it's history in the United States and the way it has been used.

    Are you changing the position you've held previously on the boards and now want to allow the history and treatment of African Americans in this country to have an effect?
     
  11. rimbaud

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    My point is that until the 60's African-Americans PREFERRED the usage of the word, even arguing for a capital "N" when classifying as a race. In the 60's the preferred term switched to "black" as a way to move forward with the move away from segregation.

    tex - Malcolm X repeatedly used the word negro to refer to himself and "his people". He also pushed for a change to "African-American" as a way to separate blacks from the painful past.

    Regardless, your argument and usage of the rhetoric of X does not hold water to any exclusive usage of negro = slavery or having to do with slavery. It was a word used for hundreds of years to describe black people all over the place. If you want to argue that it was originally used in the US to describe slaves and therefore everything after has a slavery connotation that would be silly.

    If a 40 year old Obama walked around anywhere in the US in 1955 he would have been called a negro. He most likely has been called a negro in his life (and not meant as an insult, obviously he has been called plenty of things as insults, even in Hawaii - where negro was "properly" used to describe black people pre 1960's as well, by the way).

    Regardless, I understand your post was not sincere and your "half black does not equal black" with regards to negro or history was only meant to get people upset. Because that matters on the internet? I don't know. Hey - with the one drop rule we could probably call you a negro!
     
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  12. bigtexxx

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    You're twisting meaning and timing. Can you HONESTLY tell me with a straight face that the word "NEGRO" has no slave connotations today?
     
  13. JayZ750

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    The basis of this thread is about Obama being criticized for being arrogant, and whether or not that's a racist criticism. It isn't about Rush Limbaugh song choice.
     
  14. rimbaud

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    Can you honestly show me where I posted that "negro" has no slave connotation? If you look I wrote that the connotation was not exclusive to slavery as you tried to suggest to make Obama somehow exempt from anyone calling him such. I personally also think of segregation or generally old white people still living but reared in the ugly past.

    Regardless, your accusations above are odd and deflective. Whatever, negro.
     
  15. StupidMoniker

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    When you post that any criticism of Obama is racist, all I hear is you playing the race card. :p
     
  16. MrRoboto

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    I think it is sweet that Tex is sticking up for "the blacks".
     
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    He was just trying to be cute and show everybody how much he knew (or was able to google) about the word. The fact remains that it does in fact have slave connotations today.
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    The fact remains that it isn't the only context for the word just as rimbaud has been saying all along.
     

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