People have to realize that Mayweather is the bigger draw and deserves more money. Boxers never split money 50/50 if one boxer is a bigger draw than the other. When Oscar was the biggest name in boxing Floyd took less than him because Oscar was the bigger name. Oscar made about $52MM for that fight while Floyd made about $25MM even though there was little doubt that Floyd was the better boxer at that time. Manny should take that 40% because that really is the fair split by boxing standards.
Hmm a lot of people would disagree with you on who is the bigger draw. Manny has been considered pound for pound best fighter in the world by several publications.
Pretty sure he meant his unofficial re-hydrated weight on fight night. I didn't hear them announce those this time, but it's quite common for fighters to put on more than 10 pounds between the weigh in and the fight. No idea what Cotto was at tonight though.
You're kidding right? It's not about the money. Mayweather does not want to fight Pacman. 60/40 no Olympic style testing, Mayweather back out. 50/50 Manny agreed to Olympic style testing, Mayweather back out. 40/60 to the winner, agreed to Olympic style testing, Mayweather back out once again. Need more excuses?
it varies from websites. Thats besides the point, the poster above you, made a great point. At the time of the Mayweather vs. Oscar fight in 2007. Mayweather was the P4P King, and took less money than Oscar This PPV will generate close to 2.0 million maybe MORE from the reports im hearing The fact of the matter is, Pacquaio will make the most money of his career fighting Mayweather than he has ever made just like Cotto tonight. ( Arum takes a lot of Pac's money). 40 million for Pacquaio is pretty generous considering what Pacquaio leaves with after he pays Arum for his fights I dont know why Pac wont leave Arum, maybe Arum has dirt or some private info on him.. i dunno. But if Pac leaves Arum not only will the super fight be made, but Pacquaio will make the most money he has ever made The problem is Arum
haha pactards Victor Ortiz came into his fight weighing 164.. yes i know what im talking about its obvious you dont Most fighters come into fights with more weight on them. Its why Pacquaio wanted a catchweight with Cotto, he would not Cotto go above 145.. thats crazy when you think about it Pactards
What is up with the perception that cotto is such a huge fighter? Floyd is actully taller. They only drain themselves to move down to meet a weight if they are that much larger. In cottos case he is isnt some huge middle weight that had to completely drain himself to move down. He is naturally a 140-154 pound fighter
Arum is a piece of crap no doubt. But he is not the only problem. Mayweather is part of the problem too. He really doesnt want to fight manny. You could tell from his rant a few days ago about how fighting manny may be risky for his health and at this point in his career he doesnt want to risk it. There are issues on both sides on why the fight hasnt happened
Mayweather was ready to fight at 60/40 with Olympic testing but Manny backed out. He deserves that 60% when you factor in that Mayweather is the undefeated fighter, has the largest ppv fight of all time, and has more ppv buys for 3/4 common opponents. Olympic Testing should be a non issue so for Manny to ever say he won't agree to it is suspect to say the least.
Umm you dont know what you are talking about...Please stop being a blind mayweather Mouth piece its quite pathetic. Again if you read my other post comparing how fighters performed against a certain fighter to determine who is better is stupid. You should go back and watch the pacquiao cotto fight. You might appreciate how great a boxer he is and stop descrediting him Here you go. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08kUTlcjCfU&feature=youtube_gdata_player watch rounds 3,4 and 9 if you dont have time to watch the whole thing. Also if you are a true boxing fan you can stop being so blinded and talking like wn idiot. If you really wanted to compare who performed better against de la hoya, cotto, mosley, hatton.... Then many people will clearly say pacquiao..Does that mean he would win if he foght floyd? Umm. NO. In fact i think he will probably have a tough time with floyds style and will lose but he does have the speed and power to knock floyd out which is why i think he is avoiding him
Drug testing i dont think is the issue anymore but the money. Pacquiaos fights has been just as big of a draw as mayweathers lately. Floyd wants to prove he is the best he should fight the best. And by most experts, magazines, publications, etc pacquiao is considered the best now. 50/50 is fair or they should make it 40/40 with the winner taking the last 20.
I disagree. To me Floyd is clearly the attraction. When Hatton was the next up and coming fighter it was Floyd that everybody wanted to see him fight. When Oscar was big it was Floyd that people wanted to see him fight. When Shane was looking for his last big fight it was Floyd that people wanted to see him fight. Ask yourself this, if there was some new amazing fighter out there with a perfect record do you think people would rather see him fight Floyd or Manny? I think most people would say Floyd because he is the undefeated champ and the measuring stick in boxing. It's the reason Floyd fights out sold Manny fights for Oscar, Hatton and Mosley because so many people want to see Floyd lose. Floyd has earned the right to a 60/40 split.
I dont have anything againist Manny Pacquaio( he is a class act). Its Arum i dont like And Floyd kind of has a slight speech impediment.. So sometimes he says things, that come out a little awkward. But for most part he never lies
People love to see floyd no doubt but in this case manny has earned his due also. Most consider his style to be much more entertaining and here are also some fun facts. He made the most money in 2011 for any boxer ..his fight with clottey had the 2nd largest attendance ever at 50,000. Also the fact he is ranked 1 puts him on equal terms with floyd. Also i really think floyd needs this fight more. Fair or not the general perception is he is ducking pacquiao by purposely making things difficult.
Arum is a shrewd businessman and you get that in boxing. floyd is a great fighter one of the best of all time... So is pacquaio. I dont know why fans like to bicker back and forth and try to discredit either fighter. You were doing the same thing you accused the pacquaio fans of doing. Both fighter are amazing boxers its just too bad we cant see who would win if they never get in a ring.
Floyd doesn't need the fight. He is 43-0 and just had the largest pre fight guarantee in the history of boxing and might end up with the biggest fight total in history after the ppv numbers come in. Manny has a lot more to gain by beating Floyd than Floyd does from beating Manny.
Also i wanted to pull up some real numbers and facts. Not counting todays fight pacquiao has sold more pay per view buys than mayweather. Also keep in mind pacquiao is the bigger global draw. I say 50/50 is more than fair http://www.boxingnews24.com/2012/01/pacquiao-tops-mayweather-in-ppv-buys-for-last-three-fights/ By John F. McKenna (McJack): World Boxing Organization (WBO) welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao (54-3-2, 38 KO’s) has topped WBC welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. (42-0, 26 KO’s) in Pay Per View (PPV) buys for his last three fights. In addition Pacquiao’s live gate attendance far exceeds Mayweather during the same time span. Manny’s last fight in November against Juan Manuel Marquez drew 1.41 million PPV buys, while Floyd’s fight last September against Victor Ortiz drew 1.25 PPV buys. Floyd’s fight with Marquez in 2009 drew 1 million PPV buys. Pacquiao’s fight with Antonio Margarito in 2010 drew 1.5 million PPV buys, while Mayweather’s fight Shane Mosley drew 1.4 million PPV buys. Despite Mosley being perceived as a shot fighter, Pacquiao drew 1.3 million PPV buys in their May 2011 fight. In total Pacquiao’s last three fights have drawn 3.86 million PPV buys, while Mayweather’s last three fights have pulled in 3.65 million PPV buys. In summation Pacquiao drew in 210,000 more PPV buys than Mayweather did. When you take into account the higher number of PPV buys that Pacquiao’s fights have drawn it translates into a cool $10,000,000 in cash. It is true that the Floyd Mayweather – Oscar De La Hoya fight in May 2007 drew a record 2.4 million PPV hits. Many boxing observers largely attribute the high PPV numbers in that fight to the extreme popularity of the Golden Boy, Oscar De La Hoya and the fact that it was held on the Cinco De Mayo holiday. But Pacquiao’s recent higher PPV numbers only tell part of the story. In the same three fights Pacquiao sold out the venues, while Mayweather’s last three fights were not sold out. In addition, when Manny Pacquiao fights at the MGM Grand Arena in Las Vegas a significantly higher number of high rollers from Asia fly into Vegas for his fights. The economic impact in Las Vegas for a Pacquiao fight far outstrips that of any other fighter. In a study by CSE, an integrated sports and marketing firm, Pacquiao is one of only two boxers in the 2012 Power Rankings of the most powerful athletes in the world. Manny is ranked at number 28. Mayweather is ranked 49th in the same study. Both on and off field accomplishments are taken into account in the rankings. Endorsements and media presence figure heavily in the rankings. Mayweather’s assertion that he deserves a bigger piece of the pie if and when he ever fights Pacquiao is absurd, notwithstanding Manny’s statement a couple of months ago that he was willing to take a smaller cut. Of course Floyd now seizes Pacquiao’s own words and uses them against him as a further excuse not to fight him.
You are talking about a small differential in the last three fights and in not a single one of them did anybody think Floyd had a chance of losing. Floyd has the highest grossing fight of all time when he fought Oscar and no other fight has come close. Also Floyd has 3 of the top 10 grossing all time while Manny only has 2 and Floyd might get a 4th with the Cotto fight. Lastly, when you look at their 4 common opponents over the past 5 years Floyd's fight has out grossed Manny's in 3 of 4.
