You guys are overrating LeBron's one on one defense. Watch the next Heat game -- guys are pretty consistently taking him off the dribble. Great help, weakside defender though.
Nice job cherry picking seasons.. And defense is not just blocking shots and steals... Otherwise AI would be a great defender... The issue isn't even whether LeBron > MJ defensively, but whether Chandler deserves it over LBJ... And the answer is NO.
Right.. That is why Derrick Rose hasn't been able to take him off the dribble at the end of games for 2 years... I don't like his pompous ass but I have to give credit where it is due.
Picked one of MJ's best seasons, and Lebrons current one. (which you just got done saying he deserved DPOY for)
Just because I said LBJ deserves DPOY this season doesn't relate to MJ's best statistical season defensively... Why don't you take Chandler's statistics this season and compare them to LBJ, etc. if you are relying on stats.
Nope not joking. I think he did deserve it more than LeBron. Him and Shumpert are the only good defenders on the Knicks. I always thought they were bad defensively until I saw them play more and how much of an impact he has for them defensively. LeBron doesn't always concentrate on defense partly because he has to on offense and save some energy for offense. I think it was pretty well deserved. And if there's a wing that deserves it, it's definitely Iguodala. Iguodala's just being overlooked because he isn't LeBron James so there's no media spotlight on him.
Normally when a big when its,he's top 3 or 4 rebounder,top 3 or 4 shotblocker and his team is top 5 defensively in opp fg and ppg. Chandler doesn't fit either of those criteria. Its like the yr camby won it with his blks and reboundng as well as his charges taken. There isn't a gm in the league who would take chandler and his defensive impact over lebron defensive impact. In cleve,they were top 5 defensive when he was there and now in miami they're top defensive team. Common factor:Lebron
Box stats do help, though if its totally about stats then Josh Smith should have gotten an award. Tyson Chandler doesnt put up the shot blocking stats for what his athleticism would indicate. Sam Dalembert's a better shot blocker. So its about seeing his versality on D and the effect he's had on the team.
Nice pick, he deserves it mostly for his work last season with the Mavs and that championship run they had. Media hates Howard now so he no gettie.
Ive seen Lebron James guard Pau Gasol for a huge 5 minute strectch( and do a damn good job) Derrick Rose hasnt been the same since Lebron owned him in last years ECF
Not saying LBJ is better or not, but the Heat do not have any type of interior defense anchored by a big man. The Bulls had Horace Grant first to anchor the inside, then Rodman, 2 all-nba defenders. LBJ is the only all-nba defender on that team, and Wade can be too when he's motivated (but not this year). But they don't have a big man who can consistently protect the paint. And for the Heat to still be at the top defensively tells you a lot about LBJ's defensive prowess. Personally, he should be DPOY this year b/c he does more on the defensive end than Chandler. But LBJ will win it next year b/c he's getting more props for his defense this year. Sometims he gets beats off the dribble b/c he plays so much help defense since the Heat have no big men. Watch him play, he's ALL OVER the court. He expends more energy on defense than offense easily. You do not see a guy as active defensively as LBJ for a full game, nobody.
As someone who's watched almost every knicks game this year hoping that they'd lose, I have no problem with Chandler winning this award. His impact goes far beyond his stats. The same goes for Lebron, but Chandler deserves this.
Exactly, a lot easier for Jordan to gamble on steals when he has those two defensive beasts watching his back...Lebron FTW
The year Jordan won DPOY in 1987-1988, Horace Grant was definitely not an part of any all-defensive team. Jordan didn't need help playing any defense. He's regarded as the GOAT because of his ability to dominate both sides of the ball. Him and Hakeem are the best two players to ever play and it wasn't because he had extra help. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/0hlhNoK9NZU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> People forget how great MJ really was defensively.
Look, nobody is claiming LBJ is better than MJ in any aspect. And secondly, Horce Grant played for the Bulls in 87-88 as a rookie, and he played around 25 minutes a game. Grant didn't get named to the all-nba teams until the early 90s, but the Bulls had AT LEAST somebody of some size who play consistent minutes that focus on defense. You also forgot Charles Oakley (87-88 was Oakley's top 2 year as a pro), an enforcer, and a young budding Pippen in 87-88. The Heat don't have anyone. the only big man who plays consistently is Bosh, and he doesn't even rebound. And Wade had been in and out all year, with inconsistent defensive effort. That's why what LBJ is doing with the Heat is all the more impressive. Miami is 4th in pts allowed, 5th in fg% against, 3rd in opponent TOs, and 5th in rebounding differential. That's without a big man who consistently plays 25-30 minutes a game. And more often than not, they go SMALL. At the end of the day, if you take into account the rankings of the Heat v. Knicks as a team, and what LBJ and Chandler have to do, you have to give it to LBJ. Chanlder wins this year b/c of the narrative, and they want to reward him for what he did last year with the Mavs.
LeBron is stronger and bigger, but Jordan was better on D. Like every other part of their games, really. LeBron is more physically gifted, but you have to know how to maximize your gifts and take advantage of all of them, and LeBron doesn't bring it when it counts like Jordan did.
