Throws as fast as Flacco http://blogs.ourlads.com/2012/03/12/quarterback-ball-velocity-at-nfl-combine-2008-2012/
Ok, lets talk about the velocity. I used to play tennis. I could serve 104 mph while hitting it into the service box...however, I could hit 121 mph when I served with no regard for accuracy. Arm strength in a football game isnt about how hard you can chuck the ball.
Good for us in Houston. If I recall correctly, Keenum's performance at the combine was affected by a hamstring injury -- something that was likely a serendipitous occurrence for fans here.
My sentiments exactly. Admittedly not a big Cougar fam but after they won 7 in a row I got interested. I watched every game after that at and every game I was more impressed with Keenum/ I thought for sure he would be gone by the 3rd round and when he wasn't I thought now is the time to steal this kid in the 4th round with one of our multiple picks. We didn't and I waited each subsequesnt round with more disappoint ment. I think this kid is a winner. The only game they lost wasn't his fault or at least mostly not. He was throwing pinpoint shots to his recievers and they were just dropping them. As for easy competition. They played a tough 9-3 Nittay Lion and completed 44 of 69 passes. 44 of 69, Imagine that. He completed 45 of 69 without an interception! Not one. Sure he has an offense that helps him get more numbers. Yeah he has some good recievers but they are not amazingly good. Not one of them got drafted. Casey Keenum has an amazingly accurate armm is not afraid to stay in the pocket. Avoids sacks like a pro and most of all he wins. He is a leader. He actually has a stronger arm than Yates if you believe the combine numbers (almost as fast as Cam Newton) and he is much more accurate. That's the biggest problem I had with Yates. He never led his reciever. He didn't always put the ball in the right place. Keenum knows where to put it. He knows allude tacklers and throw on the run. He knows when to release it and can take a hit in the pocket without getting rattled. I expect him to beat out Yates eventually. He has enough skill to be an NFL quarterback. It just may take a few years.
Dude, as much as people may be ragging on him, you and some others are on the complete opposite side of the spectrum...if he was as good as you are saying, he'd be drafted in the top 3 rounds (stronger arm than Yates, almost as fast as Newton, yet more accurate, places the ball in the right place, alludes tacklers, throws on the run, takes a hit without getting rattled, etc...). Yet, he wasnt. He also wasnt take in the subsequent 4 rounds, even though multiple other QBs were selected. There is a reason for this...and its that teams dont see his skill set as being successful in the NFL. I think he is very intelligent and will be able to read defenses, make proper reads, etc... However, he had the luxury of having receivers open in space, which gives him the added benefit of not putting pressure on himself to make a pinpoint pass (even against those 9-3, top 5 defense, Nittany Lions). Im excited to see what he can bring to the table...and worst case scenario, we get to root for him for a few preseason games. If he sticks, great, if not, no harm. However, I wouldnt go into training camp with the assumption that he's going to be a good quarterback...you'd just be setting yourself up for possible failure.
Why all this consternation? Let dudebro make the team first. Not like we're planning on him starting for us.
I am - It's the redvolution baby. then i want us to sign kolb as the backup when he gets cut. maybe grab a little avery for reciever, i don't even know.
The numbers show he has the potential to throw as hard as some of those other guys though. Everyone at the combine chucked the ball the same way. Looking at tennis if you can hit up to 121, with the right training you should be able to increase your good serve's speed. The fastest serve should be due to perfect contact point on a down the line flat serve .
You have undrafted guys make it all the time in the NFL. I mean kurt warner won the mvp. Arian Foster is an MVP candidate. Aaron Rodgers had to go to junior college.
You can improve to a certain point...I guarantee that Roger Federer can hit the ball 160 mph...yet, I dont think he's ever gone higher than mid 130's. There is just a point where you are forced to sacrifice speed for accuracy. In any case, based on scouts, coaches, reports, etc...Keenum's weakness is his arm strength. I trust those guys over my eyes, but like Ive said, the jury is out and Im looking forward to seeing what we've got with this guy. I hope he proves all the doubters (me included) wrong, because I think it would be a great story. Although, it already is, despite the ending.
I said He actually has a stronger arm than Yates if you believe the combine numbers (almost as fast as Cam Newton) and he is much more accurate. The combine numbers have him at a 55 mph velocity and Cam Newton at 56 while Yates was at 52. I didn't make that up. Those are numbers tracked by a radar. So if you believe the combine numbers than you would believe he has a stronger arm than Yates. Here's what one mock draft guy had to say about him. Notice the guy says some great things about him and then proceeds to say best case scenario he is a third string backup. How can he have all those skills plus be a winner and only have a best case scenario third string. He may like great size but there have been some great QB's smaller. I think his best case scenario is starter and winner. Admittedly I don't watch a lot of college football so my opinion could be wrong but I am also not this diehard cougar fan who just wants to see one of our own get a shot here. If you read the pros than you are reading the same things I see. I will definitely agree he lacks the size you look for in a quarterback. I think that is probably the biggest reason he went undrafted. But I do disagree about his QB IQ. He seemed to run the offense flawlessly in the games I watched and that is further validated in only throwing three interceptions compared to 42 touchdowns. I agree Keenum's numbers are a bit overstated because of the offense he runs but even so those are amazing numbers. And Coach Kubiak said the kid absorbed everything he said like a sponge. As for him not being drafted Kubiak said if they would have seen what he had seen than Keenum surely would have been drafted. Kubiak said Keenum was the first person he called after the draft and they quickly signed him to a 3 year deal. I am not saying he will be a starter in this league. I don't know how good he will be but I was disappointed in Yates last year. Yes he had 1 good game in the playoffs but mostly the rest of his starts he looked bad. And I see some things in Keenum that Yates lacked. And if he shows that in practice and Shaub goes down again and Yates continues to throw poorly , I like the idea of having Keenum on the team. That's all I am really saying.
Keenum didn't have an offensive line though. There is really a lot of potential in him. Only knock is his height, but he moves around and has so many different throwing motions depending on the situation. He would always get pummelled after throwing the ball, too. Very accurate in short passes and gets the ball in tight spaces. Leads his receivers, is more mobile than Yates/Schaub, etc. I can't wait to see him in the preseason.
I would love for Keenum to excel. His mobility would make him an incredible threat if he has the physical tools to actually throw the ball effectively in the NFL. If Keenum can handle the throwing part of the game in the NFL, he would be an amazing player in Kubiak's system. I have my doubts, but I think of him as a lottery ticket. He is definitely worth trying to cultivate even if the odds are against him ever succeeding at the NFL level. Here's to hoping though.
I want Keenum to make the team just for all the haters in here. The kid has been given a great opportunity and for some reason people want to bring the guy down. That's just lame.
Saying he's not ready to start/make big impact =/= hating and bringing guy down Nobody on this thread is hating lol, if anything I would like to see him do good just so we have another decent QB on our roster
Who's bringing the guy down? If anything, get mad at the 32 teams that had little interest in even spending a 7th rounder on him. There must be reasons for it, no? Those reasons have been reiterated here, thats all. I doubt any true Texan fan would want Keenum to fail, bc that's ultimately not in the best interest of the Texans. However, it's okay to think he doesn't have the skills to make it in the NFL. That's not hating, when the overwhelming majority of NFL GMs agree. I think it's more absurd to think he has a great nfl career ahead of him bc the odds are stacked against him heavily....so from my unbiased standpoint, the Keenum lovers look to be in la la land. There is absolutely no harm in bringing him in...in fact, I wish the texans brought in Edwards and Fuller to compete as well. I'm excited to see what he's got and it makes me wish the Texans would be on Hard Knocks so that we could have a first hand look at what's going on behind the scenes. It's a cool storyline and it would be great if he could dismantle Yates, bc that means we've improved.
The way I see this, too, is that I always feel more pride in local pro teams when I have a feeling of connection with college (or high school) talent developed locally...guys we've had the chance to watch grow and develop into pro-level (or pro-potential) athletes. More obvious examples are guys like Clyde Drexler and Hakeem Olajuwon or farther back to Elvin Hayes. Carl Herrera. Lance Berkman. Michael Bourn. James Casey. The talent range is obviously all over the place, but to me when guys like that end up on our pro teams, it increases my interest level and gives me even more reason to cheer them on. The pro sports mentality today is for the teams to bring in an absolute stranger based on stats and draftability who the fans will eventually grow to like or hate or about whom we just feel neutral. It's a much better feeling when we can bring in someone we already know and like (the situation for a lot of use here with Keenum). I've watched UH football for a pretty long time. I'm not an alum, but I cheer for them as a local team and I've been going to their games since I was a kid, going back to the 60s when my dad first took me to watch them in the Astrodome. I watch them as often as I can on TV (more often than in person, admittedly, but I try to go to at least a couple of UH games a year). I love it when one of their guys is drafted or becomes a free agent pro. I won't try and predict what Keenum will be able to do in the pros (although my gut feel from watching him play so much is that he's got what it takes -- and I mean that mentally in addition to his physical skills/talents), but my already high interest level in the Texans has gone up even farther with his signing, regardless of what the future holds.
Really happy for Case and I hope he makes the roster. Always cool to have local college stars on the pro team.
Don't you just love underdogs? And that is exactly what Keenum is. No where to go but up in the NFL scheme of things. Let's just wait and see. I say he surprises, that he is better at the NFL level than expected, that he has been underrated and his skills have not been fully appreciated. Mark this, he will outwork, outsmart, and out hustle any and all competition. And I will go farther, he will be better than Bradford or McCoy by the end of his career. I love the kid, he has the skills to be a starter. May take awhile, like 3-5 years, but I believe he can do it. Will he star in the league? Maybe, but more likely a solid team player.
