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Case Keenum signing with Texans

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Marteen, Apr 28, 2012.

  1. BEAT LA

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    Uh can't even sell out that college sized stadium. I doubt this was a marketing ploy. The texans are hoping he can be what Gordon Hayward is for the jazz.
     
  2. ItsMyFault

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    Doubt he'll ever see action here. PS like many people have stated is probably the best that he can hope for. Yates is definitely a better QB. Unless Schaub and Yates both go down in the near future, don't see how he'll ever see time on the field. At that point, if he is any good, he'll likely move on to another team who might have a bigger role for him than the 3rd string QB.

    Gordon Hayward comparison is bad. Hayward was regarded to be a good pro coming out of college, a lottery pick for the Jazz. That's exactly what he is.
     
  3. brokebackTmac

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    Hell Yeah!
     
  4. Mr. Brightside

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    Casey Keenum was one of the greatest college quarterbacks ever. No reason he can't be one of the greatest NFL quarterbacks ever too.
     
  5. QdoubleA

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    Remember folks, this is the same guy who has the Texans going 8-8.
     
  6. rezdawg

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    I agree...I was referring to the poster's comment that Keenum completes 70% of the passes as "accuracy". The reason he's accurate is because receivers are so wide open...therefore it really doesnt require any true accuracy. Just throw the ball within a big area and its complete.
     
  7. CCorn

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    Most of what I've seen is him nailing the receivers in the hands. RG3 is the only QB who has impressed me more with accuracy. I'm not an expert, but the accuracy isn't what I think the concern is. He didn't get drafted because of his size, and the conference he played in. If Case was a complete product of the system, almost every school in the nation should have that system. **** Mac Brown better be studying that system as we speak.
     
  8. varuscelli

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    I go back again to the fact that if Kubiak hadn't seen something in Keenum worthy of pro-level development, the Texans wouldn't have wasted their time, efforts, or money. I'll give Kubiak and Rick Smith's decision far more credence than the opinions of any skeptics here (although the skeptics seem much fewer than those happy with the chance Keenum is being given).

    I like the Texans' decision in this matter and like the fact that they were in one of those rare situations by today's pro standards of being willing and able to give a local college-level standout/hero a shot on the local pro team. If he doesn't make it, at least he's been given the opportunity, and I love the fact that he's being given that opportunityhere.
     
  9. DonnyMost

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    Nothing about the UH system makes bad passes into good ones. Same goes for Baylor and Oklahoma State, who run a similar offense. Not sure how you guys are drawing that conclusion. Do you watch UH games? A bad pass isn't going to get completed, even if the dude is wide open. The only thing that increases completion percentage for Case is that the majority of his throws are within 15 yards.
     
  10. CCorn

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    They need to watch some tape on Denard Robinson.
     
  11. varuscelli

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    This sounds like the kind of statement that someone would make who hasn't actually watched Keenum play for any significant amount of time. If you watch only the sports news highlights where they tend to show only long passes for big gains, you might come to such a conclusion -- or if you listen only to the analysts who similarly seem to rely only on such highlights, you might come to that conclusion. If you've seen Keenum play on a regular basis and actually saw how many completions he got with his sort to medium range passing in tight coverage, you'd know better. It takes a well-rounded game to do the things he did.

    Yes, you do have to be surrounded by other gifted players, including receivers who have the ability to get open (even though UH never gets the creme of the crop in regard to top-rated recruits). But hey, isn't that what the game's all about? The synergy between gifted athletes? Same thing goes for the pro level. He'd have better defenders coming at him, but he'd also be working with a better offensive line, better receivers and running backs, etc.

    None of us know at this point how Keenum will develop as a pro, but it's pretty crummy to unnecessarily demean his accomplishments at the college level.
     
  12. ItsMyFault

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    Not sure why that's a big deal. I just think that with our schedule we'll be around that 8-8 mark. I'd love to be wrong, but I believe last year's record had somewhat to do with the ease of the schedule.. not to talk anything away from the team. Regular season records don't always matter. Last two SB winners went 9-7. 8-8 is still good enough to win the div.
     
  13. Rocketfan713

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    8-8 isnt winning the division bro. i love how you say the titans are going to be better than last year. they went 9-7. how can 8-8 win the division?
     
  14. No Worries

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    No, no, no. Andre Ware was the best college QB ever.
     
  15. QdoubleA

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    There is nothing at all wrong with you thinking that, I just don't think it's reasonable is all. I can see us sweeping the division (at most 2 loses), that's 4-6 wins already. I also agree that 8-8 can take the division.
     
  16. emjohn

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    If the knock on Keenum is that he's a system QB that benefited from a passing game that made a QB look good....well, that's exactly what Kubiak's system is too. Sounds like a good match to me. Let's give him a chance.


    I'm not mad about your pick...but I would respond to your comment regarding the schedule by saying 3 of the Texan losses last year came against the "easy" squads (4 if you count Oak), due to the Schaub + Johnson injuries. It's my opinion that they washed out. No team is ever injury free, but I'd suspect that injuries won't be as devastating to us this year, and that the schedule isn't really THAT much tougher than it was in 2011.

    NE, GB, and BAL vs BAL and NO
    Den, Det, and Chi vs ATL and PIT
    Division and Mia <--> Division and Mia again
    Buf, Min, NYJ vs Oak, Clev, Cin, TB, Car

    It's a tougher road, but Wade's D is primed and ready to go from the start this year (learning curve Sept-Oct last season), and hopefully injuries aren't as severe as they were.

    And the front five has the potential to be even more dangerous, with Mercilus and Crick rotating through and keeping the starters fresh late.
     
  17. rrj_gamz

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    Low risk potentially high reward...toward the end of the draft Jaworski from espn was a Case dream killer...not that he didn't make any good poimts, just his delivery...hope case proves him wrong...
     
  18. rezdawg

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    If you guys want to sit here and claim that a very large portion of his passes werent to wide open receivers (5 yards) or that he didnt gain a ton of yards from bubble screens, so be it.

    Did he have wide open receivers on every completion? Of course not...but the difficulty of his passes needs to be assessed...and very few times did he complete difficult throws, relative to the number of times he had wide open targets.

    Are we gonna sit here and claim Cotton Turner has great accuracy too with his 70% career completion rate, along with 11 TDs to 1 INT?
     
  19. ItsMyFault

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    I'm not sure where I said that the Titans will be better than last year. I think they'll probably be worse, hence why I said 8-8 will probably win the division.

    I just feel that we're in for some sort of a letdown. I hope I'm wrong, but that's just what I think. That's why I'm predicting that we sort of underachieve with the regular season.

    That's true, you make some good points. I think once the team takes the field for the first time, most of my questions will be answered as to if we're really into for a letdown or if this will be a SB contending type of season.
     
  20. Rocketfan713

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    YALL both wrong. It's Tim Tebow, and this is coming from a UH fan. :grin:
     

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