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Bucher: Rockets will offer 2 best players for Bosh

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by milkoholic17, Apr 26, 2012.

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  1. allanivan

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    Come on man, Scola is a way better post-up player than Bosh. All he need all-star defenders on his team, Wade and Lebron. If they want, I would give them Samuel Dalmbert in exchange of their pick.
    However, there was a talking about that Heat does not need a elite point guard on the team because they have Wade and Lebron (Super PointForward)
     
  2. JayZ750

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    Wouldn't Kevin Martin be a better fit for Miami then Lowry. As others have mentioned, they don't really need a ball dominant PG. Lowry isn't super ball dominant, but he's not exactly a spot-up shooter.

    Martin doesn't need the ball in his hands to score, and is an effective outside shooter. he's what they wanted out of Mike Miller offensively.

    Martin + Scola for Bosh
    Lowry + filler for lotto pick from Portland + filler.

    I don't love Bosh. But he is clearly an upgrade from Scola. Perhaps meaningful upgrade. And without a tank, are there better options out there.

    If you can get a lotto pick from Portland, it's as if you tanked.

    Resign Dragic, of course.

    Dragic/[Llull?/Other]
    Lee/Budinger
    Parsons/[Lotto Pick]
    Bosh/DMo
    Camby/Dalembert
     
  3. emjohn

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    The only thing Bosh really has going for him is his best buddy status with Wade and LeBron. Otherwise, he's a barely a top ten PF in the league today, and a huge disappointment down low.

    #17 in the league for blocks.....among PFs.
    #12 in rebounds.....................among PFs.
    #15 in FG%...........................among PFs.

    I'm not going to say that Scola is on par with him, but to split Bosh into a strong starting defensive PG (major team need) as well as a cheap PF replacement....it's not an absurd trade from their standpoint.

    Bosh is a wildly overpaid role player on that team, and doesn't compliment the real stars well at all. They need a Rodman.
     
  4. larsv8

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    BARELY A TOP TEN PF IN THE GAME. :eek:

    You must be joking.

    The only PF who is clearly better than Bosh is Dirk and he is on the down swing.

    If you would have put Bosh in our high post system he would of exploded like Kevin Love did.
     
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    Chris Bosh is really underrated on this board.

    I think any 2 players from our squad for Bosh would be more than fair for us. On 2nd thought we'd make out like bandits. Especially if we can dump Scola or Martin. Scola has been great for us but his contract is pretty bad and he's turning 33 in a few days. I won't even say anything about Martin.

    I'd hate to give up Dragic but if that's who they wanted as one of the players you have to give him up. It's not like we we've gone anywhere the last 3 years and it's going to be more of the same without some drastic changes. Getting a bonafide all-star would be a change for the better without a doubt. Dragic and Lowry are both good players but they're not all-stars and they never will be. We missed the boat on selling high for Lowry. I hope we do not make that same mistake with Dragic if there's a legit opportunity to get better.
     
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    Why would the heat do this trade?

    They don't need a PG with Wade and LeBron both dominating the ball. All they need is a defensive PG who can shoot 3's (Chalmers).

    Why would they want Scola?
     
  7. danoman

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    Miami wont trade Bosh right now, eventually they will just like the lakers are trying to do with Gasol but not any time soon.
     
  8. larsv8

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    Because they have essentially reduced Bosh to a spot up shooter which is a role that Scola can handle at a much cheaper salary.

    Upgrading from Chalmers to Lowry, and Anthony to Dalembert probably makes them a better team overall.
     
  9. AggNRox

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    in this case, ppat is good enough for them instead scola. scola may be more useful on other trades when other teams need not only a spot shooter but also a low post scorer at 4.:grin:
     
  10. ROXTXIA

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    And, again, the guy's on a team with 2 of the best players in the game. His worth only shines when Wade or LeBron is out.

    I would prefer a PF with more "sand in his pants" (heavier), but I'm sure Morey would echo the sentiment that beggars can't be choosers (bromide, cliche, etc).
     
  11. ApuN

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    Why in the h*** would you build around Chrissy

    Wade and LeBron are not the problem. Good players can make there own space

    He can't win with two certifiable hall of famers. What makes anyone think he can win in Houston??

    Bringing him here will recreate his Raptor teams all over again. A big soft guy in the middle who hates the paint with a bunch of three point chuckers
     
  12. Sleepy Flloyd

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    Or Red Lobster
     
  13. larsv8

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    Bolded for ridiculous double standard.

    So its Bosh's fault he can't alongside 2 HOF, but the HOFs are not at fault even though they couldn't win on a team stacked with superstars.

    Bringing him here would be the Rockets with a superstar, not the Raptors who had Bosh and nothing else.
     
  14. cooliobob

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    Alright, let's get a couple things straight here:

    Chris Bosh IS one of the Top 5 PFs in the NBA, however, he isn't a player you build around. He is good as s second option, but he shouldn't be the primary focus of your offense. He moves very well without the ball for a guy of his size and is a decent shooter but lacks some serious post presence. Sometimes he falls in love with that 17-20ft jumpshot and can really shot you either in or out of games. If the Rockets could add Chris Bosh without giving up significant pieces, I would be all for it, but honestly, if we are giving up our two best players for Bosh, we are pretty much right back where we started.

    The Heat are a very talented team and are light years ahead of the Rockets as far as championship contention is concerned and to be realistic, the Rockets don't stand a chance of competing for AT LEAST the next 3-5 years. There are other young teams out there that have far more talent and are THAT much closer to contention than the Rockets (i.e. Thunder, Bulls, Clippers) that it wouldn't be worth it for the Rockets to give up their current pieces for a player that in all honesty isn't getting any better at the age of 28. Basketball is a cruel sport and as your physical attributes betray you, you have to rely more and more on skill. You see players like Kobe who have adapted their games as they've aged and their physical abilities have declined, but I have not once seen Bosh adjust his game (maybe a jump hook here or some form of a post move) and with each passing year he seems to get more and more comfortable with that long range jump shot. If anything, he's very much like Stoudemire or Boozer these days, and has pretty much relegated to strictly jumpshots. The only difference is, on both of those teams, they have an Alpha star (Rose and Anthony). If he wasn't a banger then, he won't be one now and the Rockets honestly need a lot more than just Bosh to compete in this league. He's a solid complimentary option, but not a player you build your franchise around.
     
  15. emjohn

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    Dirk, Love, Aldridge, Zach Randolph, and Griffin are all hands down better than Bosh, and he hardly separates himself from Gasol, Josh Smith, or even David Lee.

    In Toronto, in Miami, he's weak on the glass and does little to defend the rim. You can't rely on him down low, because he hates contact and would rather take 13 footers.

    SF with no handle or grit in a 6-11 body.
     
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    Do it!!!!!! (Stasky & Hutch's voice)
     
  17. Deckard

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    Luis is 31 years old. He'll be 32 in a few days. Geez, everyone seems to add a year to the dude's name.
     
  18. ROXTXIA

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    You're being a little shortsighted.

    Wade and LBJ DOMINATE THE BALL. Bosh is reduced to an overpaid role player. He DOES play great when one of the other two are out.

    I'd aim for somebody else in a trade, but as I said, beggars can't be choosers, and Morey is desperate enough for an All Star. ANY All Star.
     
  19. ROXTXIA

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    None of whom will be available to us.

    Maybe Bosh won't either, and this is all of us jerking off because of something Ric Puker said.
     
  20. CCorn

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    If Miami loses this year he will be the scapegoat. If Lowry was on Miami he would be able to focus more on D, and he's an extreme upgrade over the scrubs they have.

    Lowry/Wad/Bron/Scola/Dalembear would be the best team easily in the league, and we'd get a star. Bosh is a very good player, he just defers to his teammates. There is a reason the team is better when Wade is out.
     

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