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Ron Paul

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Batman Jones, Mar 3, 2012.

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  1. MiddleMan

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    Tampa Convention. It's only Romney and Paul now.
     
  2. Rashmon

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    Oh, I get it, he's sandbagging Romney for the Tampa Convention tsunami surprise. Good plan. Should be interesting.
     
  3. MiddleMan

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    They will make a deal by then. Yes it will be interesting.
     
  4. Major

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    Wait - why exactly does Romney need to do a deal? :confused:
     
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    I was about to ask the same thing.
     
  6. Batman Jones

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    No they won't and no it won't.

    Santorum and Gingrich entertain similar fantasies. They are in for a disappointment. Paul is less likely than either of the others (or even than Michelle Bachmann or Tim Pawlenty) to get a concession from Romney.
     
  7. MiddleMan

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    Do you think all those delegates that voted for Newt and Santorum will accept Romney? We will see a non boinding delegate count closer to tampa. Will Romney have a chance of beating Obama with out the Ron Paul supporters?
     
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    So, what would this deal actually look like?
     
  9. thadeus

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    What will Ron Paul supporters do? Write in Ron Paul? Refuse to vote? Vote for Obama?
     
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  11. MiddleMan

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    Write him in or refuse to vote altogether. That alone will sink the GOP.
     
  12. Batman Jones

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    I once was you. As an employee of Jerry Brown's campaign in 1992, we were all sure Clinton couldn't get the nomination without us and that surely he would need to make some concession, at least a prime time speaking slot. We thought, not to do this would surely doom the Clinton campaign. And it wasn't just us, some reporters were crazy enough to believe it too. There are always some that take the crazy-bait. Last year it was all about Hillary's supporters and what kind of deal she was going to get in trade for her grudging endorsement.

    Ex-candidates don't get deals from the party's nominee. Fringe candidates especially don't, especially when the nominee needs to move left.

    The ones of Paul's delegates/supporters that hate Obama will vote Romney. The ones that just liked Paul are up for grabs or they will stay home. The one or two that will just do whatever Ron Paul tells them to are idiots.
     
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    I didn't realize that Middleman was taking my posts seriously.

    But that was before Ron's recent eleven delegate landslide in the 37th legislative district of Washington's King County changed everything. Ron's supporters stood tall against all odds.
     
  14. MiddleMan

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    Sigh.. do you have anything constructive to add?? At least Batman Jones and mcMark are. Come on you are becoming a troll.
     
  15. Rashmon

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    To rational observers, there is not much of anything "constructive to add" in regards to Ron Paul's Quixotic run for president.

    I find his besotted supporters pretty amusing in an "aw shucks ain't they cute" kind of way.

    You keep up the good fight and just ignore my petulance.
     
  16. MiddleMan

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    Tell me about your views, do you like our current state of govt???
     
  17. Major

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    :confused: Yes, I think the delegates that voted for Newt and Santorum will accept Romney. Why wouldn't they? Delegates from the losing candidates almost always support their party's nominee. But regardless, Romney will rack up enough delegates the rest of the way from the primaries that it won't matter - he'll easily exceed the threshold even if Ron Paul were to win every delegate from every caucus state. Ron Paul's "ignore the primaries and just win the caucuses" was a doomed strategy the minute he decided not to attack Romney. The only way for him to have any relevance whatsoever was a deadlocked convention.

    As far as Romney vs Obama, he will have to do without the Ron Paul supporters, because changing his platform to anything remotely acceptable to Paul supporters will cost him more support from the non-fringe and independents.
     
  18. MiddleMan

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    To the convention it is.
     
  19. Major

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    OK, sure. It's amazing how many Ron Paul supporters are mathematically challenged.
     
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    Yes, even though ~60% of Americans want an immediate withdrawal from Afghanistan, all of Paul's positions are so looney and fringe. And that whole idea of having Congress declare the wars we fight (as the constitution says)....so radical! I mean, whose crazy idea was it that we fight wars only if our national security threatened...:rolleyes:

    Get past the ad hominem attacks. Many of Paul's positions that are supposedly 'fringe' are actually very popular with the American people. Whether it be auditing the Fed, leaving mar1juana control to the states, ending all foreign aid, or a foreign policy that stresses protecting our own borders as opposed to the borders of other nations.

    You see it in the polls when you match him against Obama. He does as well against Obama as Romney does in all the polls. And he does the better among Independent voters (the voters who decide Presidential elections) than Romney. In other words, your entire statement is complete BS...
     

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