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Quincy Miller

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by acshen, Apr 24, 2012.

  1. rocketblaze

    rocketblaze Member

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    Prior to the injury he had his senior year....

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    Just concentrate on his mobility and overall fluidity, and you'll see a big difference compared to this past college season... I mean If he can get back to this level of mobility, which is likely given that his type of injury can take up to 10 months to fully heal, then we can have a big time sleeper on our hands. If he's still there at 13th...

    Just for comparison sake here's highlights of this past season...

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  2. sgl_carlos

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    Would draft this guy with the 16th pick. Seems to have the potential to be an NBA Star
     
  3. STR8Thugg

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    Soft. Rail thin...
     
  4. jayhow92

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    Better than Marcus Morris and not as potentially busty as White. I'll take him at 16. I'd also trade morris for wroten.
     
  5. Convictedstupid

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    He's going against high school competition in the first video and he still doesn't seem to have a quick first step.
     
  6. rocketblaze

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    Well with his type of handle, an extremely quick first step isn't really needed. With tight handle you can always throw a player off balance and drive by them or create space e.g.: Kevin Durant is a good athlete with good lateral quickness, but doesn't possess a very quick first step, however he can get by players or create space using a series of deadly crossovers in combination with his size and length...

    Samething w/t Q.Miller, when healthy, he has good lateral quickness and is a good athlete (about slightly better then Parsons), but his best tool to drive by players will be his handle. Now if you combine his handle, overall skill, 6'9 frame and 7'4 wingspan, and were looking at arguably a top 5 talent in this draft... IMO

    Definitely worth taking with the 14th overall pick....
     
  7. jayhow92

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    Definitely worth the 14th pick. Very bright future if he can stay healthy. Trade away Morris immediately.
     
  8. chow_yun_fat

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    I hope we pick him up and Kendall Marshall...would be fun watching them play.
     
  9. Medicine N Music

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    Would definitely draft with 14th pick. I don't think we'll be drafting at 14, but we need to draft high potential players. Lamb, Miller, Rivers may all still be at 14. Given our situation I'd prefer Lamb, but I'd be happy with either 3.
     
  10. allanivan

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    Agree, would take him with 16th pick or even trade for a 20 pick to get him.
    Still hope we can nail either Austin Rivers or Jeremy Lamb with the 14th pick
     
  11. allanivan

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    you think Sun will give their 13th pick for morris and somebody else?Chase budinger?
     
  12. Aruba77

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    No doubt about his talent. I actually think he's got just as high of a ceiling as Perry. But i do question his head and his passion. His development will very much depend on his mental maturity. If he listens, works hard, and stays out of trouble, the sky is the limit. But i just don't get that impression from listening to him or watching his game. He's the quintisential example of a boom or bust guy. Well worth a flyer in the later part of the draft, but i'm not sure he's worth the 17th pick considering who else might be there.
     
  13. Carl Herrera

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    So, what's the book on guys recovering from ACL injuries nowadays?

    Do we expect him to gain back the pre-injury level of explosiveness within the next year or so? Do we expect it to cause future complications?

    I recall Carl Landry and Brandon Roy both had knee problems (were they torn ACLs?) in college. Are they good examples of what we might expect from Miller (and from Rubio and Rose)?
     
  14. EpiBear

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    Miller definitely would've done well to return for another year at Baylor. Could have put himself in place to be a top 10 pick after returning to full strength. After watching PJ3 and Miller, PJ3 has all the skills you love but his intensity and assertion are lacking at times. Once Miller fully gets his explosiveness and agility back I think he can be a star in a few years. His confidence and competitive fire is what you love to see. Decent 3 point shooter, nice midrange shot and can take his defender off the dribble to the rim. Likes to go to his spin move in the lane to get a close shot. Also willing to post up and use the hook shot. Depending on who is available when we pick I'd give him a serious look.
     
  15. MrButtocks

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    Star potential, but you can say that about a lot of guys in this draft. Between him and say, Tony Wroten, who's more likely to pan out?
     
  16. cooliobob

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    You can definitely tell that he's a step slower and his movements aren't as fluid post-surgery. With that being said, plenty of players are able to recover from serious knee injuries (ACL tears) to be just as explosive and produce at their pre-injury levels. However, not all players are able to recover their pre-injury athleticism as it mainly comes down to genetics and how hard they are willing to work during rehab. For some players it simply takes longer to recover.


    Tony Wroten tore his ACL back in 09', but he has been able to recover and has regained every bit of his athleticism, pre-injury. It's definitely better to sustain an injury like this when you are younger as plenty of athletes have sustained similarly serious injuries while in HS and college and have come back to compete at elite levels. Miller might be better served returning to Baylor for another year to show that he can regain his old form (athletically). However, what if he never does gain that step back? Could cost him millions...
     
  17. Matthieu

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    he used to be a really interesting propect, but he took an arrow in the knee ... sort of ... that said, as a late lotto pick it's a high risk high reward pick i think
     
  18. haoafu

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    http://www.basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=2261

    Here's a nice article discussing the ACL tear impact on player performance. At Miller's age, the performance hit is expected to be very small(maybe 1-2%) after it's fully healed. The real issue is the amount of development time wasted.

    I hope we can trade down and pick him up. We need upside more than solidness these days, and late first round is a nice place to bet your money on tremendous upside.
     
  19. batkins

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    If we keep our picks, I really hope one of them is Miller. He has the highest potential to become a star that late in the draft. We have enough role players, lets take a chance.
     
  20. Shaud

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    Sooooo who gave Quincy Miller advice on coming out this year smh
     

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