Do you think Morey should be fired?

He was told and is on record of saying that the team's goal (his) was to make the playoffs this year. Ya know, in the NBA, that means you only have to be in the top half percentile to achieve this. There are some ***-hole organizations in ****-hole cities who have achieved more sucess than the Rockets.
So you want to blame McHale and his ridiculous coaching the last 5-7 games? Who's the jack-wagon who hired this guy and fired a hall of famer.
You want to blame Les for not letting them tank? Ok, but me, you, or Whitney Houston could be the gm here and tank.
There's talk, and there's follow through. So far the GM here has been all talk. In other words, all hat and no cattle. Sure Carrol Dawson made some questionable moves, he also made some bad arse moves. But you know, he got **** done.

 

Nope.
If Les wants only $, Morey will stay here for a very long time. Otherwise, there will be change after this season.

 

Something that came to me after watching the post game conference with McHale. When he was asked about Lowry and shortening rotation in the 2nd half, he kind of laughed and said: "I was trying to win a game".

Do you guys feel it's a possibility Morey sort of forced McHale to play Lowry? Maybe to show other teams he can still play, maybe because he wanted him to start again in case it went well and doesn't feel confident they can keep Dragic or something along like that? Or am I reaching here?

It's the laughing reaction, he knew the question referred to Lowry, which was kind of forced and his face said something else. As if he wanted to do this all along and now just went with his guy instead of what Morey told him.

 

Gortat

I think that pretty much all has been said for Morey and against him in this thread already but I'll say this:

Basing your opinion on Morey's player valuation ability on the offer he made to Gortat is moronic. Morey is the same GM who paid the full MLE to Brad Miller's corpse a year later and supposedly he didn't value Gortat any higher than 3m per year? I call bull****.

We have to remember that Gortat was a restricted free agent, Orlando was not known for letting it's key players walk away (if anything, it was the opposite).

So what we IMO have is:

1. Morey knows that Orlando will most likely match anything we can offer - up to the full MLE.
2. Offering Gortat a contract will get the ball rolling - somebody else will throw money at him.
3. Dallas pulls the trigger - signs Gortat to the MLE.
4. Orlando lets Dallas wait, and in the meantime poaches Brandon Bass from the Mavs.
5. Orlando matches the offer. Dallas loses Bass when they waited on Magic to match.

So What exactly would Morey have achieved by offering our full MLE to Gortat?

I'm sure there's plenty of things to be mad at Morey and Les but this isn't one of them. Then again, of the people bringing this up, some are probably trolling knowing full well its stupidity and the others are most likely too ignorant to know what restricted free agency even means.

 

I'm with you, man! Let's fire Morey and replace him with Jerry Krause! After all, the man got results! Six championships! And he's available right now!

Pay no attention to these crybabies suggesting that, given Les's directive to win, no other GM could have had us in better shape - you and I know that's just loser talk from losers. Let's hire Crumbs and start hoisting those banners! Results!

 

in Morey we trust

 

I'm curious. Where did the phrase "in morey we trust" originate? What amazing move did he make and what great result did he achieve to earn that kind of trust?

 

He built a pretty solid core around TMac and Yao. Brooks / Lowry / Landry /Artest /Scola /Deke /Barry /Hayes was a team capable of winning a championship if the two superstars could have stayed on the court. I have to give him credit for getting such a good supporting case.

 

Morey should not be fired because he has gotten this team younger and not terrible during his time here. He has much more up his sleeve in store for this team.

 

I think he made a couple good moves in a row, not just one big one, that caused fans to start using that term (i think it was drafting brooks, landry, and then trading for scola, all within a month).

It's an known exaggeration as well though, so don't take it too literally.

 

You know it's not fully his responsibility

 

So we choke at the end of the season and now everyone wants to be the Bobcats? Getting "worse" to get "better" DOES NOT always work. People make it sound like its a fool proof plan. Lets tank one year, get a high lotto pick and bam! We are champions!!!! No, that is not how it works. In order to "tank" you need to trade all your halfway decent players like Scola, Martin, Lowry etc...why you might ask? Because these men are professionals, they aren't just going to lose because you tell them to. They are going to compete, and you should commend them for trying to do their job to the best of their abilities. Sure, they don't always succeed, but besides Martin, you can't legitimately say these guys don't try hard every night. SO unless you trade most of your decent players, you aren't going to be the Bobcats. Ok, so now we have no players and a bunch of picks. That means we are going to be in the Finals in two years right? No! Why is that? Just because you draft a bunch of young players doesn't mean it always shakes out. See-(Warriors,Bobcats, Wizards, Raptors, Cavs, etc...) To be painful honest, staying competitive and just waiting for that one lucky trade or what one gem in the rough at #14 gives you just as good odds of going to the Finals as tanking does. Say you do draft a great rookie, he isn't going to prosper without good role players and veteran leadership. Do you have those things? No-you traded that away. So that means you need to use your MLE for a few years to build up a decent supporting cast. Hey, that sounds familiar, didn't we do that before? You're right, we had these guys called TMAC and YAO. So, tell me, what happened once we finally got a good supporting cast for those guys? Oh that's right, they got injured. The reality of the situation is, you play any game to win, better just to keep trying to compete than try to fail to succeed. Tanking is not fool proof. It is a valid to maybe consider it, but it is not as fool proof as many here want to think...

 

No one is saying it always works. No one is saying that at all. They're saying, like Morey said, that it gives an organization the best chance at rebuilding and becoming a contender, ultimately. Shuffling the deck over and over again isn't going to get it done.

 

he traded brooks who hasnt played in the nba for dragic wow

 

Does he not have the reins?

 

Just like a subway driver.

 

Some people just don't get the difference between "enduring growing pain" and "play to lose".

We are not talking about sitting our TD and Kobe on the bench and hoping for a higher draft pick. We can't win now, and we couldn't win then. If you want to grow as a team to become a contender, you have to go through growing pain - meaning bad result for a while. Playing for playoff and hoping to get better is totally different focus. You don't want the pain, so you won't get the growth.

Playing for a playoff spot meaning you are playing to be average in the league. If that's your focus and goal, you go out to find every possible experienced washed up veterans for THIS YEAR. You might get the result for this year, might not. But you get nothing for your future.

Playing to be a much better team in the future meaning you use every possible means to acquire youth and talents and develop them. You still play to win in every game, but you make sure that you are playing your young talents so that they can grow faster. You don't trade your draft picks away, but rather keep trading your pricey veterans for high draft picks and young talents. If you still win with those young players, congratulations, you are already better, and will be getting even better when those young guys keep developing. If you lose with those young talents, congratulations, you know their true potential and you can make better decisions in terms of their future. Congratulations again, since you are losing you are getting higher draft picks to get better talents.

We all know which path we have been on.

 

But every stop he makes, he is celebrated like a war hero.