Giving up on the Presidency, GOP eyes the Senate in 2012

I said nothing about her being a moderate. I think she tried to be critical or rational *GOP gasp*. As Sam pointed out, she failed in several high-profile incidents.

I guess I'm not willing to pound that label into her political tombstone. Maybe I'm wrong.

 

no its not excessive given your criticism of the president. you got called out on two things, ignorant to the issues of snowe, and being hypocritical. all you have to say is you were wrong. thanks in advance

 

related opinion article about the extinction of the Centrist

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...rtisanship/2012/04/19/gIQAFIH8TT_story_1.html

 

these types of articles always pop up when conservatism is ascendant

 

When has "conservatism" ever been ascendant?

Social conservatism has died a slow death with each successive generation, and with each legislative decision (ex: DADT repeal), this momentum pushes forward.

Fiscal conservatism. Ha. Even king Reagen ran budget deficits up sky-high, and expanded the government with shiny new "Star Wars" toys, if not useful services.

It's in the nature of the word. Conservatism is holding onto antiquated positions that time has helped erode. It is inevitable in a dynamic democratic society that accumulates more and more knowledge each year that progress will steamroll through this.

 

Since 2008. Wonder what happened in 2008.......

 

You know, I think it takes more than a 3% bip from Gallup polls with margins of error around 1-2% to say that "conservatism is ascendant".

But hey, it's your party. You know, for example, the one who tried to hold DADT in place, and failed.

 

That's the greatest increase in a political ideology over a 3 year period Gallup has ever recorded (they have been tracking since '92).

 

Uh, there's two times in your own chart that I see that's not true given margins of error.

Track the liberal line.

Thank you, come again.

 

Learn to read a chart. Greatest increase over a 3 year period = 3%. Margin of Error would apply to all data points equally in this case.

 

The liberal line increases 3% at least twice within a three year span.

Given confidence intervals on each study, that's a statistically insignificant difference even if one asserts the conservative line increases once at 4% (debatable) and that the proportion of conservatives are greater.

Anyways, when you're stuck arguing over a 3% rise to define the rise of conservatism, you're grasping at straws. DADT is repealed, I can't help but note the continuing absence of a balanced budget amendment, and studies indicate that millennials are some of the most progressive/liberal individuals out there. Once the "conservatives" finish struggling holding onto whatever precious vestiges they once had, the next generation will sweep up and change what the previous did wrong. Progressives started with civil rights, moved onto Roe v Wade, defended Roe v Wade in Casey v Planned Parenthood, repealed DADT, and legalized gay marriage in a few states, while maintaining a level of economic knowledge that continues to grow, and continues to repudiate flawed pre-Keynesian ideas. Inevitably, "conservative" positions will erode; it's just a question of when rather than if.

 

Liberalism and conservatism are relative terms. A person who held steady convictions might move between them depending on how they are defined at the time.

i.e. Opposing segregation would have made you a liberal in 1964.