1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Do you think Morey should be fired?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by GreatOne1978, Apr 19, 2012.

?

Should Morey be fired

  1. Yes

    364 vote(s)
    30.7%
  2. No

    821 vote(s)
    69.3%
  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    124,577
    Likes Received:
    33,572
    What an AWESOME post...

    DD
     
  2. larsv8

    larsv8 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    21,663
    Likes Received:
    13,914
    If you came into this season with the playoffs or bust, you frankly came in with the wrong expectations. This team wasn't built to win, it was built to be midly competitive while we put together a blockbuster trade.

    Making the playoffs was secondary goal. The primary goal is to make that big trade.

    If we can't land that big star, sure, it might be time to re-evaluate our approach, but the outrage over a six game losing streak on the GM of all people is completely out of line.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    124,577
    Likes Received:
    33,572
    That is NOT what Morey or McHale said, why should anyone hold them accountable to YOUR expectations and not the ones they themselves said?

    DD
     
  4. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    108,239
    Likes Received:
    158,328
    Can I steal your post? :p

    Pretty much hit the nail on the head on why he should go.
     
  5. larsv8

    larsv8 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    21,663
    Likes Received:
    13,914
    What should they be saying if the scenario is as I described?

    You yourself have been extremely critical of players being treated like assets by Morey. Now here is a direct example of them playing the PR game and yet here you are at the forefront, still complaining.
     
  6. Third eye

    Third eye Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2012
    Messages:
    457
    Likes Received:
    7
    Far more realistic-after the botched pau trade....we were left with a team that was what it was- we tried to trade for a super star, and it didn't work....
     
  7. MadMax

    MadMax Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    74,005
    Likes Received:
    20,790
    I don't think the problem is management. I think the problem is ownership. i think Les acquired a team that was absolutely stacked and he enjoyed the fruits of that...but it ends there for the most part.
     
  8. SamFisher

    SamFisher Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    59,081
    Likes Received:
    36,710
    Why don't you ask one of the experts in denial in this area - DaDakota, 2008-2010:




    [/QUOTE]
     
  9. MadMax

    MadMax Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    74,005
    Likes Received:
    20,790
    [/QUOTE]

    I knew that was coming :) I had some lengthy exchanges with DaDa over that very issue, because I was seriously frustrated by this organization's unwillingess to be honest with itself about Yao's condition.

    But to be fair to DaDa...he's not on payroll to make those decisions.
     
  10. SamFisher

    SamFisher Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    59,081
    Likes Received:
    36,710
    The organization knew about it, that's why they made a play for Gortat, etc. The real problem was actually offseason after they lost to the Lakers. THAT was the time to blow things up. But then Adelman came up with that "magical" 42-20 lotto season, featuring MIP Aaron Brooks.

    Heh, fool's gold....
     
    #290 SamFisher, Apr 20, 2012
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2012
  11. il italiano

    il italiano Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2009
    Messages:
    389
    Likes Received:
    11
    Morey should not be fired. He is a fantastic GM that we must hold on to. He may be our most valuable "asset" so let me explain:

    Morey would be the best GM in the league if we had a superstar to build on. He is a master at finding unknown gems and turning them into contributing role players - some even borderline all-stars. All the moves he makes improve the team substantially. We got Scola for a bag of skittles, dragic for brooks, camby for hasheem thabet, lowry for basically nothing, signed artest which turned us into instant contenders, etc... Look at our current roster and insert a healthy Yao, a dwight howard, or hell even an Al Jefferson and we would instantly be championship contenders.

    Morey was dealt a crap hand when Yao and Tmac went down to injury. The right move, instead of what we are doing now, would seem to be to tank and rebuild. All the success we have had as a franchise came through the lottery. Moses, Hakeem, and Yao all came thanks to lottery picks. But i dont believe its Morey's fault that we arent tanking, its Les Alexander's fault. He doesnt want us to tank because all he wants to do is to win, which is admirable but it may be because he just wants to sell tickets.

    I like Les as an owner and i certainly am not calling him to sell the team, nor am i calling for morey to be fired because i see how good a gm he really is. I think its time to tank, and for every1 to be behind it. Unless we can get a really good piece in a trade for lowry, its time to tank.
     
  12. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    124,577
    Likes Received:
    33,572
    I knew that was coming :) I had some lengthy exchanges with DaDa over that very issue, because I was seriously frustrated by this organization's unwillingess to be honest with itself about Yao's condition.

    But to be fair to DaDa...he's not on payroll to make those decisions.[/QUOTE]

    No kidding, I am a fan, not someone that is PAID by the team to make that call.

    If you want to give me the GM's job, then I would have to make those tough calls and be judged by them as part of the job.

    Sam is just being his usual assholish self.....not really contributing just taking shots.

    Get some new material Law boi !

    DD
     
  13. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    124,577
    Likes Received:
    33,572
    That was directed at Sam...not you Max.

    You get the proper perspective, Sam is just a dick.

    DD
     
  14. rock4ever

    rock4ever Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2010
    Messages:
    1,257
    Likes Received:
    38
    A few things:

    We have more Morey fans than actual Rocket fans here. In reality, firing Morey should be a legitimate option. Blaming Les, Mchale or anybody else is only a way for Morey fans to save face. You cant declare a GM great with relatively mediocre results. You guys threw everybody else under the bus (Adelman, Brooks, Kmart, Tmac, Les) but seem to have every excuse in the book for Morey lol. Basketball don't work that way. I say fire him and bring in another young GM with a more conventional way of building a team
     
  15. larsv8

    larsv8 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    21,663
    Likes Received:
    13,914
    Sure you can.
     
  16. LAFIRMA22

    LAFIRMA22 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    937
    Likes Received:
    138
    DaDakota always contradicts himself that is nothing new he just rides the bandwagon and goes along with the flow.
     
  17. emjohn

    emjohn Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2002
    Messages:
    12,132
    Likes Received:
    567
    You can say several things about DD, but that's definitely not one of them.
     
  18. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    124,577
    Likes Received:
    33,572
    Nope, I take each discussion on an individual basis, it is just morons can not understand how one situation is vastly different than the others.

    And they try to lump them together as some way of proving me wrong.....hell, I am wrong on my own often enough, lol.....big deal....

    If I was GM, I guess I would be fired.....

    DD
     
  19. gmoney411

    gmoney411 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2008
    Messages:
    3,779
    Likes Received:
    895
    First, who are the players Morey didn't get that you wish he had?

    Second, your stronger voice will be a better argument if Morey can't convince Les this offseason to choose a direction. Saying he doesn't have a strong enough voice only one year removed from losing Yao in a year with a shortened offseason is jumping the gun a bit.
     
  20. RV6

    RV6 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    25,522
    Likes Received:
    1,109
    I'm completely baffled by the fact that people still think blaming Les is an excuse to save Morey, when Adelman, Morey, JVG, and Clutch have confirmed that Les wants to keep this up. Unless you think the problem isn't rebuilding while trying to win, how do you not blame Les for this??
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now