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I own a handgun -- will Obama take it from me?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Apr 10, 2012.

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  1. bigtexxx

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    So you're in favor of blowing up the 2nd amendment?

    Do liberals have zero respect for the Constitution and bill of rights?
     
  2. Nice Rollin

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    1st amendment: Separation of church and state
    4th amendment - no unreasonable searches & seizures
    8th amendment - No cruel and unusual punishment
    14th amendment - equal protection clause

    just a few that conservatives tend to have zero respect for....
     
  3. Hightop

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    You can give up like the worthless liberal p***y that you are, I won't. The future of these things will all be drones. It is already happening. Always ready yourself for the fight against collective/socialist tyranny.

    I don't even see Afghanistan easily giving up like you are. It's only the size of Texas.

    I go on strike every day buy advocating the abolishing of the income tax and the expansion of governmental power. (Obama's assassination of us citizens, NDAA, Patriot Act etc)
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    That's odd. Not one thing I mentioned in my post spoke of giving up at all. Not one. I'm not sure where you got that from.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    Where did I say that I was in favor of blowing up the 2nd amendment? I'm a gun owner. I said that arming yourself with pistols rifles and shotguns to fight off the govt. is pointless and stupid. It won't work. There are better ways to fight off a govt. as I mentioned.
     
  6. rocketsjudoka

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    It might be important to remember that those same Founding Fathers also crushed a citizens militia during the Whiskey Rebellion.
     
  7. Hightop

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    "About 20 men were arrested, but all were later acquitted or pardoned. The issue fueled support for the new opposition Democratic Republican Party, which repealed the (whiskey) tax when it came to power in Washington in 1801."
     
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    Note to Hightop: For someone who advocates mar1juana use, you sure as hell seem like you could use some.
     
  9. QdoubleA

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    Obama is going to personally fly a drone, which runs on ground up Constitution, into every homosexual in Libya and give them abortions. He will then go to the nearest airport where he will frisk you're closest female relative with no gloves on (that's right, he's going to raw-dog it), followed by going to YOUR house, making a sandwich with YOUR bread, and converting YOUR cat to Islam. He will follow that up by amassing his socialist red commie gay lovin, flag burnin' butter churnin' citizen army to take you down. YOU Hightop, you will be the only thing standing between NObama and 'Murica eagle freedom. Do you have what it takes?
     
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  10. Malcolm

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    4 years after being in office and no one has come to get any of your guns and there hasn't been any legislation on weapons why do stupid gun lovers keep making this same dumb claim. OBAMA IS NOT TAKING YOUR WEAPONS!!!!!!!!
     
  11. Bandwagoner

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    What mental state are you talking about? Gun owners that shoot often are well aware of the stress relief provided.

    Which song?

    Totally false.

    False. Hand held weapons and high explosives are massive trouble for governments to deal with. Any guerrilla resistance wouldn't want to have anything heavier because it could be easily found and destroyed.

    Gun control advocates try to make every widely reported death as a reason to pass gun control. Obama almost made the Arizona shooting a rally point then decided against it. It is obviously political suicide, but if gun rights (like most right) are not fought for constantly, they will be lost.
     
  12. False

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    Obama is thought to be taking away our guns because the NRA still exists as an institution and all institutions seek to maintain their power. The NRA won't tell its members that they already won on all the issues they cared about for the last decade, nor can they set the new goal posts to be a "gun for every fetus," so their only recourse is to continuously pretend like guns are at risk, if they wish to maintain their political power and fundraising capabilities. As people said earlier in this thread, Obama has been the best thing that has ever happened to gun manufacturers.

    It doesn't even matter that this junk is certifiably false because the left won't dare challenge it for risk of inspiring further action calls and further mobilizing the single-issue gun rights voters. Reasonable right-wingers also want to continue in office, so they won't risk stepping out of line. As a result, these lies eventually become fact. The eventual conclusion to this cycle is that you have otherwise reasonable people on message boards peddling NRA untruths as unadulterated facts.
     
  13. Bandwagoner

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    They can't tell them that because it is false. We still don't have national concealed carry reciprocity, and none of the political realities of gun rights being poison are true if the NRA doesn't exist.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    It doesn't matter if it isn't big enough to find easily. The second they are used against military units they are able to be found. Also just killing troops which is all they might be used for doesn't win against the govt. They'd need to be able to stop tanks, take over fortified buildings, information and control centers, hold onto any buildings and fortifications they had. That isn't possible against the technology and weaponry the US govt. has currently.

    If you think armed with small arms that American citizens can defeat the United States govt. that's your opinion. Being able to inflict a few casualties doesn't win a war against a tyrannical govt. U.S. govt.
     
  15. Bandwagoner

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    It does if the people behind the government lose interest in supporting the killing of millions of people then over through it. Which is exactly what would happen.

    And your theory they can find any attackers instantly is just plain wrong, and dumb.
     
  16. KingCheetah

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    Yeah, but the second term is when Obama will get crazy.
     
  17. Rashmon

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    I've already got the email from his campaign staff seeking volunteers for the confiscation of weapons and confinement and reeducation of dissenters.

    I think I'm going to go with the confinement and reeducation of the dissenters.

    It's my civic duty to help out the less fortunate.
     
  18. Bandwagoner

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    I get the joke, but find it even more funny you think gun owners are scared of you guys. They are scared of the guys who kill people for a living, not the liberals who have never touched a gun.
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    According liltexxx you've lost because you resorted to personal insult.

    But if you think you can use small arms fire against military targets and not have them able to find a location close enough to you to call in air strikes, or return fire from tanks, mortars, or their own superior small arms, I'd be interested in hearing how that would work.

    The U.S. military may not be able to 100% of the time. I apologize if I posted in a way that lead you to believe I meant that. I did mean that the military would be able to locate an area close enough to effectively wipe out resistance from small arms fire enough to be able to wipe out resistance most of the time and certainly enough to render resistance ineffective using only small arms fire.
     
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  20. Bandwagoner

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    I didn't insult you, I insulted your theory. I am able to have civilized discussions. If I called you dumb, or a dick, or tons of other things people call bigtex, that is a personal attack.

    It works all the time in Iraq and they have terrible tactics, much less urban environments, and frankly are not very bright. You set a roadside bomb, hit a patrol, shoot at them then run. In 50 yards there will be thousands of people so the military cannot know who it was. They certainly cannot call in an airstrike.

    The longer you keep it, the military will lose interest in killing own citizens, and the more the citizens will hate their government.

    They are also used to a tyrannical govnerment, americans are not.
     

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