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Did Rockets lose mojo ´cuz of Lowry's return?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JCole, Apr 14, 2012.

  1. Deckard

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    That's what I've been speculating, and mentioned it in another thread somewhere. Lowry's return has had no effect on Chandler, IMO. Certainly no more effect than his return has had on anyone else. I can see the entire rotation having a little bit of hell getting used to them both playing, at least for a few games, but otherwise, I see Lowry being back as a huge plus.
     
  2. Carl Herrera

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    Kyle Lowry must die so that the Rockets may live!
     
  3. Deckard

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    Man, don't make me laugh like that! I just dragged myself in from 6th street and Esther's Follies. All hail Cuba Libre's!
     
  4. rock4ever

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    Could it just possibly be Dragic's play? He was as erratic & outta control as ever against Phoenix.
     
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    Mchale's gotta get the playoff line up ready. Time will tell if this statement will hold true or not, but we've already seen Lowry almost bring the team back during the Utah game, so there has been a glimpse of the rotation working out.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    Scola & Parsons were playing great before Lowry came back...

    :)

    DD
     
  7. leebigez

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    Heypartner, why would u play lowry and dragic together unless another team is playing small? Why is manu making his way into this? We all know pop saves his vets especially a wreckless guy like manu. Come playoff time, manus mins are pretty close to 36.

    Just to clear, lowry is a good player and to me its not just the last 2 games. Its not hard to see the dynamic of the team is different. Just like in ny when anthony came back,lins #s fell off. Difference is melo is a boderline superstar. Since lin has been out, melo kinda loks like melo. I guess martin comes of his injury and resumes his also?
     
  8. Dei

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    Phoenix and Utah are pretty good teams but one more game they play badly and I'm joining the ship Lowry next season wagon.
     
  9. LOLatSoccer

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    MORE LIKE GOGI IS STARTING TO BE FIGURED OUT

    i knew this would happen


    teams are forcing him to the opposite side on the pick and roll, and thats where the turnovers are coming

    And i think we have had some help from the refs in some of these wins, along with the jazz and suns losing some fluky games at the same time we lose, just makes me believe tat Stern wants us in the playoffs to spite us out of a draft pick in a DEEP draft
     
  10. heypartner

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    You yourself said you'd play them in spurts. That's all I'm saying, too.

    btw: the reason I mention Ginobili is because he has always shared PG duties with Parker...plus it is proven that Ginobili is at his peak efficiency on 30mpg. Rest helps sustain peak efficiency, especially in a compressed season. I would not play either more than 30mpg, because we can hit the team with top 10 quality PGs well-rested at all times. There is a solid argument to say that this "mojo" issue is because Dragic, Lee and Parsons had to log too many minutes in Lowry's absence...just like Lowry logged too many minutes earlier.

    My question to you is why waste a top 10 PG. You have to be creative and get both of them on the court for spurts. I think the only difference is I say a 30/30 mpg split, and you said a 38/20 split. I think in a compressed season 38mpg is too much for either PG. If you agree then, that ups the backup to 36/22 -- which is what McHale has been doing the last 4 games. Mine requires on ave of 12mpg dual PG; yours requires 10mpg (adjusting for realistic max mpg for the starter). We are in closer agreement than you think, if you'd just realize your mpg dual PG spurts is not much different than mine.

    To answer you question and to discuss game situations with you
    Who do you play at SG when Lee sits? I contend that Dragic or Lowry are our best off-ball guards when Lee sits.

    #1 often implies the opposing team's starting SG is resting, too. That is to say, mostly against 2nd units you would only play our backup PG, but sometimes you can stretch the starter's minutes to kill a 2nd unit. We have the luxury of extending the minutes of both, because we have two starter quality PGs. Thus, why I'm advocating 12mpg together -- two 6 min spurts.

    I also will play them when I need to launch a 4th quarter comeback and want up tempo with more 3pt shooters -- recall the Sura, Wesley, Barry year.

    I sometimes will play them when I want to go small, first, because of certain matchups.
     
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    like they figured out he's left-handed.:) also, he logged heavy minutes in Kyle's absence.

    had to respond so I could say, nice moniker!
     
  12. durvasa

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    Since Lowry has been back:

    Code:
    [B]             On Court        Off Court
               min      +/-     min     +/-[/B]
    @SAC       18       +7      30      +10
    @POR       23       +9      25      -4
    UTA        20        0      28      -12
    PHO        26       -6      22      -1
    [I]Total      87       +10    105      -7[/I]
    
    While Lowry was out, the Rockets starting unit was doing a great job, and consequentially were winning despite poor depth. In the last few games, not so much.

    Blaming it on Lowry seems a little weird to me, unless people think he's messing with the Rockets mojo from the bench.
     
  13. Carl Herrera

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    don't you know, durv, that this is what he does. He and Sammy the Haitian use dark voodoo magic to make Lee and Parsons shoot bad!
     
  14. rock4ever

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    Blaming Lowry sounds like more of a protection for Dragic from his fans. Dragic's decision making has always been suspect, but now he's been figured out by other teams.
     
  15. cheke64

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    Dragic came in and took the lead but also scola got some easy buckets. My theory is looking clearer.
     
  16. heypartner

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    at least you call it a "theory."

    I dare you to tell that to Dragic, Lowry or the Coach in person.
     
  17. JCole

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    we lost (all) last 4 games , since Lowry's return... still a coincidence ?
     
  18. SamFisher

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    You are on to something with this correlation, JCole. But you are going about it the wrong way.

    The answer isn't that Lowry is playing, the answer is that Boykins isn't playing.

    Boykins is the x factor that leads to greatness. His shortness causes people to point, laugh, and gawk, even when he is not in the game which is what is causing the starting lineup to lose its mojo. Now that there is no chance of him coming into the game, it's simply not funny anymore.
     
  19. heypartner

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    dude, Lowry has played 6 games. We won the first two he played in.:rolleyes:
     
  20. DaDakota

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    Lowry is not fully healthy, looks slow of foot, and his shot is a bit off, he needs time to get back to game shape.

    DD
     

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